Re: [Fsedu-developers] Reorganization of the wiki

[James Michael DuPont]

--- Wouter Vanden Hove <address@hidden> wrote:
> Hi, 
> some questions.
> 
> 
> What are your thoughts on 
> *) Metadata 
> there are some official standards for packaging e-learning objects?
> (LOM, SCORM)

Do you have any links?
I hope that we can use rdf to support meta-data.

> 
> *)Classification
> once the project gets large, how do you structure it?

I hope to use again an RDF ontology/TopicMap for the classification of
the knowledge.

The structure of a one project internallay is a good question.

> 
> *)Does someone have any knowledge with:
> frameworks like
> Midgard, http://www.midgard-project.org/
> Zope, www.zope.org
> Mit Open Knowledge Framework
> Apache Cocoon,..
> Noösphere, the Planetmath.org-engine

Not yet. but There is a plan to make a zope like gui for the bookml
according to jilks.

> 
> Is Flash considered an open standard?
> http://www.educommons.org/

Hmm, svg?

> 
> Most of the time we talk about content creation.
> OK, what what if the content is created?
> IMHO the content-creation layers should be separated from the
> presentation layer.

yes, that is the idea of the bookml/ oddmuse:raw formats.

> 
> If I read a course on algebra it shouldn't matter wat tools the
> authors
> used.
> 
> A wiki is good for continuous development, but it's not very suited
> for
> presentation, alos a wiki presupposes that you do your writing
> online,
> unlike cvs.

We will need to have the wiki use some repository in the backend.
right now we need to be able to rescue what is in the wiki.

> 
>  I think a kind of library with "stable" releases from the wiki would
> be
> nice. GNUtemberg is a kind a library, but they just contains links to
> Free Works.http://www.gfdd.org/
> By making a stable release you could optionally go through a peer
> review
> process.
> 
> 
> It would be nice if the resulting work is a "package", just like a
> *.deb
> of an RPM-file. 
> containing:
> 
> metadata according to offical standards, like Dublin Core
> a XML-masterfile,
> some fixed-named directories like 
> /images, 
> /css for different stylesheets
> /scripts ,containing some useful scripts like convertors to other
> fileformats, a script for generating a table of contents,...

sounds good!

> 
> the package can then be shipped as a gzipped tarball
> of there are many tarballs on a subject a distribution can be made
> mathematics, biology,...
> 
> for textbooks, the modules of the Connexions Project are a very
> interesting case study.
> This is the Connexions wiki: 
> http://bunker.ece.rice.edu:8080/mntb/wikis/
> 
> For reference works planetmath.org seems the best system to me.
> 
> 
> Wouter Vanden Hove
> http://www.open-education.org
> http://www.opencursus.be
> 
> 
> Op ma 26-05-2003, om 19:06 schreef Peter Minten: 
> > Hi folks,
> > 
> > I talked to mdupont on IRC yesterday about reorganizing the wiki so
> that books
> > and other educational material can be written in it. We agreed on
> the following
> > approach:
> > * The wiki pages will be a mix of RDF, BookML (aka Docbook + MathML
> + ChemML)
> > and wiki type markup.
> > * Scripts will transform the wiki pages into the following output
> formats:
> >   - Wiki HTML
> >   - Docbook
> >   - LaTeX
> >   - RDF
> > * The wiki is reorganized around four central themes:
> >   - Tool generation (for example the wiki scripts)
> >   - Educational content generation (writing textbooks, making
> slides, etc)
> >   - Advocacy (carrying out our message to schools)
> >   - FSEDU (anything not in the previous three categories)
> > 
> > We believe that with this approach the wiki will be much more
> useful. For
> > example it will be possible to write books directly in the wiki.
> > 
> > Greetings,
> > 
> > Peter
> > 
> > 
> > 
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