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[O] Emacspeak and org mode (fwd)


From: Jude DaShiell
Subject: [O] Emacspeak and org mode (fwd)
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2015 06:05:20 -0400 (EDT)
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Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2015 02:17:21
From: Tim Cross <address@hidden>
To: emacspeak <address@hidden>
Subject: Emacspeak and org mode
Resent-Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2015 02:29:40 -0400 (EDT)
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Dear All,

is anyone else experiencing signficant loss of functionality with =
emacspeak and org mode recently?

I=E2=80=99ve noticed that in the last week, a number of significant =
problems with org mode and emacspeak. Unfortunately, I upgraded both my =
emacspeak and org mode at about the same time, so I=E2=80=99m not sure =
whether the issue is with emacspeak or org mode.

I run the org-plus-contrib package from the org mode elpa repository. =
I=E2=80=99m running emacspeak from github.

Things I have noticed

1. When adding a note from an agenda view ie. after hittinng =E2=80=98z=E2=
=80=99, while entering the note, emacspeak just keeps repeating =
=E2=80=9Cbefore headline at position xxxx=E2=80=9D, which makes using =
the note feature near impossible
2. running org-babel-load-file to generate new code files from babel =
code is extremely slow
3. Clocking in/out in the agenda doesn=E2=80=99t seem to work correctly =
and I think is throwing an error (but it isn=E2=80=99t spoken, so I need =
to dig deeper).
4. When working in an *.org file, moving down lines withe either C-n or =
arrow down, every now and again, emacspeak speaks the top/first heading =
line instead of the line of text the cursor is at. You have to move up =
and down a few times before it will speak the line rather than the =
headline

plus a number of other issues.

I=E2=80=99m not looking for an angel to come and fix this. I=E2=80=99m =
just after any input to know if

1. anyone else seeing similar recently?
2. any clues as to whether this is due to changes in emacspeak or =
org-mode

and of course, if you have fixes/work-arounds, I=E2=80=99ll take them =
too!

regards,

Tim





Tim Cross

IT Security Manager
Information Technology Directorate

University of New England
Armidale N.S.W. 2351 Australia

Email: address@hidden
Phone: +61 2 6773 3210
Mobile: +61 428 212 217


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class=3D"">Dear All,<div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div =
class=3D"">is anyone else experiencing signficant loss of functionality =
with emacspeak and org mode recently?</div><div class=3D""><br =
class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">I=E2=80=99ve noticed that in the last =
week, a number of significant problems with org mode and emacspeak. =
Unfortunately, I upgraded both my emacspeak and org mode at about the =
same time, so I=E2=80=99m not sure whether the issue is with emacspeak =
or org mode.&nbsp;</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div =
class=3D"">I run the org-plus-contrib package from the org mode elpa =
repository. I=E2=80=99m running emacspeak from github.</div><div =
class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">Things I have =
noticed</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">1. =
When adding a note from an agenda view ie. after hittinng =E2=80=98z=E2=80=
=99, while entering the note, emacspeak just keeps repeating =E2=80=9Cbefo=
re headline at position xxxx=E2=80=9D, which makes using the note =
feature near impossible</div><div class=3D"">2. running =
org-babel-load-file to generate new code files from babel code is =
extremely slow</div><div class=3D"">3. Clocking in/out in the agenda =
doesn=E2=80=99t seem to work correctly and I think is throwing an error =
(but it isn=E2=80=99t spoken, so I need to dig deeper).</div><div =
class=3D"">4. When working in an *.org file, moving down lines withe =
either C-n or arrow down, every now and again, emacspeak speaks the =
top/first heading line instead of the line of text the cursor is at. You =
have to move up and down a few times before it will speak the line =
rather than the headline<br class=3D""><div apple-content-edited=3D"true" =
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<div style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: =
14px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; =
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start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; =
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class=3D""><span><br class=3D""></span></div><div style=3D"color: rgb(0, =
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font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; =
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text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: =
0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=3D""><span>plus a number of =
other issues.&nbsp;</span></div><div style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); =
font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; =
font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; =
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text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: =
0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=3D""><span><br =
class=3D""></span></div><div style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: =
Helvetica; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; =
font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; =
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none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; =
-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=3D""><span>I=E2=80=99m not =
looking for an angel to come and fix this. I=E2=80=99m just after any =
input to know if</span></div><div style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); =
font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; =
font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; =
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text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: =
0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=3D""><span><br =
class=3D""></span></div><div style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: =
Helvetica; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; =
font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; =
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none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; =
-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=3D""><span>1. anyone else seeing =
similar recently?</span></div><div style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); =
font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; =
font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; =
line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; =
text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: =
0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=3D""><span>2. any clues as =
to whether this is due to changes in emacspeak or =
org-mode</span></div><div style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: =
Helvetica; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; =
font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; =
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-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=3D""><span><br =
class=3D""></span></div><div style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: =
Helvetica; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; =
font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; =
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none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; =
-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=3D""><span>and of course, if you =
have fixes/work-arounds, I=E2=80=99ll take them too!</span></div><div =
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font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; =
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start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; =
widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" =
class=3D""><span><br =
class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline">regards,</span></div><div =
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font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; =
letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: =
start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; =
widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" =
class=3D""><span><br class=3D""></span></div><div style=3D"color: rgb(0, =
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text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: =
0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" =
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rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 14px; font-style: =
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after-white-space;" class=3D"">IT Security Manager</div><div =
style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 14px; =
font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; =
letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; text-align: -webkit-auto; =
text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; =
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2; word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: =
after-white-space;" class=3D"">Information Technology Directorate<br =
class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); =
font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; =
font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; =
line-height: normal; text-align: -webkit-auto; text-indent: 0px; =
text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; =
-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; orphans: 2; widows: 2; word-wrap: =
break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: =
after-white-space;" class=3D"">University of New&nbsp;England<br =
class=3D"">Armidale N.S.W.&nbsp;2351 Australia</div><div style=3D"color: =
rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 14px; font-style: =
normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: =
normal; line-height: normal; text-align: -webkit-auto; text-indent: 0px; =
text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; =
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break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: =
after-white-space;" class=3D""><br class=3D"">Email:&nbsp;<a =
href=3D"mailto:address@hidden"; class=3D"">address@hidden</a><br =
class=3D"">Phone: +61 2 6773&nbsp;3210<br class=3D"">Mobile: +61 428 =
212&nbsp;217</div>
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