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Re: how much of a forge is SaaSS?


From: Yuchen Pei
Subject: Re: how much of a forge is SaaSS?
Date: Mon, 05 Jul 2021 08:43:21 +1000
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bill-auger <bill-auger@peers.community> writes:

On Wed, 30 Jun 2021 19:59:51 -0400 Richard wrote:
If a project operates the forge, and its participants use it for
working on that project, that is not SaaSS.  In this case, _the
project_ is using the forge.

i agree; but none of the forges on this list are of that case -
perhaps savannah.gnu.org is, because all projects are GNU
projects; but savannah.nongnu.org is not

thats why Yuchen's essential question is: how much of the
functionality of forges would qualify as SaaSS, in cases where it
is operated by "someone else"

IMHO, projects are using these freebies only because the are
popular, and for the convenience of someone else maintaining
their infrastructure for gratis - nothing prevents projects from
operating their own forge, or to competently manage their
projects without any forge - even if they must pay for hosting,
it would be only a few bucks per month, for most projects -
IMHO, that qualifies all but savannah.gnu.org as SaaSS

Judging from rms' response, there are basically two criteria to determine whether a service is SaaSS:

1. Whether it does communications only
2. Whether it is operated by people / project using it

And the service is SaaSS if and only if the answer to both questions are no.

With that it looks like NonGNU is not SaaSS because it the answer to the first question seems to be yes. And it is not unrealistic for a forge to satisfy criterion 1 without satisfying criterion 2.

Best,
Yuchen

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