Re: [Ranger-users] A new approach to build the user interface of the future!

[Andres MRM]

I see that like a great change!
I always mistype using Vim key bindings, doing bad things with my files.
You could add ALL modifiers before any command to avoid that. Like:
- Ctrl+Alt+Meta+Shift+AltGr+up to go up.
- Ctrl+Alt+Meta+Shift+AltGr+down to go down.
That will probably help a lot! =D

Maybe we will lack fingers... but that can be an opportunity to interact more
with people. Like "Hey, could you please help me by pressing
LShift+LCtrl+LMeta so I can press RShift+RCtrl+RMeta+RAlt+Delete to delete a
file?". I see great friendships, and, why not, love stories starting that way!





Quoting feel.squally (2015-03-31 19:15:56)
> With vim key bindings for scrolling down along the files in a directory you
> just need one finger typing j.
> 
> I guess with emacs you need C+n that implies TWO fingers.
> 
> Also, if this change is about a concern of freedom, is there the FREEDOM to
> choose between vim and emacs key bindings like tmux does?
> If so, I am happy with this change otherwise I think ranger will lose users
> pretty soon.
> 
> Il 31/mar/2015 22:52 "Miodrag Milic" <address@hidden> ha scritto:
> 
>     > Imagine a text editor where you can just type in some keys, and they
>     appear on
>     the screen.  Just like that. 
>    
>     OMG, I didn't even know such thing exists!!!! PLEASE!!! 
> 
>     On Tue, Mar 31, 2015 at 10:41 PM, Gerald Klein <address@hidden> wrote:
> 
>         Can someone please tell if this is a joke, I'm serious I can't tell?
> 
>         On Tue, Mar 31, 2015 at 3:20 PM, hut <address@hidden> wrote:
> 
>             So, ranger has been around for almost 6 years, and after all this
>             time of
>             optimizing and re-evaluating, I think we need a paradigm shift in
>             the way
>             ranger works.
> 
>             There are going to be a few changes starting with the upcoming
>             1.7.0 release
>             which can be tested now already by running the current git 
> version:
> 
>               git clone https://github.com/hut/ranger.git -b current
>               cd ranger
>               ./ranger.py
> 
>             I sincerely believe now that trying to copy the vim user 
> experience
>             was wrong
>             on many levels, because clearly emacs is the better editor.  It's
>             build on the
>             idea of freedom, of elegance and of having to press modifier keys
>             all the time.
> 
>             If that doesn't convince you yet, how about this:
> 
>             Imagine a text editor where you can just type in some keys, and
>             they appear on
>             the screen.  Just like that.  No silly modes, no crazy things
>             happening by
>             typing random characters on the keyboard (think ggdGZZ, it deletes
>             your whole
>             text, then saves the file and quits the editor!  How crazy is
>             that?!)
> 
>             No.  Using Emacs key bindings is the only sane way to do it.  
> Check
>             out the
>             new key bindings on the man page: http://ranger.nongnu.org/
>             ranger.1.html
> 
>             Of course ranger has no concept of "typing in text" like emacs
>             does, so typing
>             in keys without modifiers will do nothing at all.  Basically you
>             will have to
>             use modifier keys for everything you do.  But still it's obviously
>             better than
>             vim-like key bindings.  ***BONUS*** The first 100 to upgrade will
>             get a free
>             treatment for their future carpal tunnel syndrome!
> 
>             Regards,
>             hut
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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>        
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> 
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> 
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> 
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> 
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> 
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