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Re: [Qemu-ppc] [PATCH 2/2] spapr: Adjust default VSMT value for better m
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Laurent Vivier |
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Re: [Qemu-ppc] [PATCH 2/2] spapr: Adjust default VSMT value for better migration compatibility |
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Mon, 15 Jan 2018 08:53:48 +0100 |
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On 15/01/2018 08:27, David Gibson wrote:
> fa98fbfc "PC: KVM: Support machine option to set VSMT mode" introduced the
> "vsmt" parameter for the pseries machine type, which controls the spacing
> of the vcpu ids of thread 0 for each virtual core. This was done to bring
> some consistency and stability to how that was done, while still allowing
> backwards compatibility for migration and otherwise.
>
> The default value we used for vsmt was set to the max of the host's
> advertised default number of threads and the number of vthreads per vcore
> in the guest. This was done to continue running without extra parameters
> on older KVM versions which don't allow the VSMT value to be changed.
>
> Unfortunately, even that smaller than before leakage of host configuration
> into guest visible configuration still breaks things. Specifically a guest
> with 4 (or less) vthread/vcore will get a different vsmt value when
> running on a POWER8 (vsmt==8) and POWER9 (vsmt==4) host. That means the
> vcpu ids don't line up so you can't migrate between them, though you should
> be able to.
>
> Long term we really want to make vsmt == smp_threads for sufficiently
> new machine types. However, that means that qemu will then require a
> sufficiently recent KVM (one which supports changing VSMT) - that's still
> not widely enough deployed to be really comfortable to do.
>
> In the meantime we some default that will work as often as possible.
> This patch changes that default to 8 in all circumstances. This does
> change guest visible behaviour (including for existing machine versions)
> for many cases - just not the most common/important case.
>
> Following is case by case justification for why this is still the least
> worst option. Note that any of the old behaviours can still be duplicated
> after this patch, it's just that it requires manual intervention by
> setting the vsmt property on the command line.
>
> KVM HV on POWER8 host:
> This is the overwhelmingly common case in production setups, and is
> unchanged by design. POWER8 hosts will advertise a default VSMT mode
> of 8, and > 8 vthreads/vcore isn't permitted
>
> KVM HV on POWER7 host:
> Will break, but POWER7s allowing KVM were never released to the public.
>
> KVM HV on POWER9 host:
> Not yet released to the public, breaking this now will reduce other
> breakage later.
>
> KVM HV on PowerPC 970:
> Will theoretically break it, but it was barely supported to begin with
> and already required various user visible hacks to work. Also so old
> that I just don't care.
>
> TCG:
> This is the nastiest one; it means migration of TCG guests (without
> manual vsmt setting) will break. Since TCG is rarely used in production
> I think this is worth it for the other benefits. It does also remove
> one more barrier to TCG<->KVM migration which could be interesting for
> debugging applications.
>
> KVM PR:
> As with TCG, this will break migration of existing configurations,
> without adding extra manual vsmt options. As with TCG, it is rare in
> production so I think the benefits outweigh breakages.
>
> Signed-off-by: David Gibson <address@hidden>
> ---
> hw/ppc/spapr.c | 11 ++++++++---
> 1 file changed, 8 insertions(+), 3 deletions(-)
Reviewed-by: Laurent Vivier <address@hidden>