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Re: [PATCH 2/7] guest_memfd: Introduce an object to manage the guest-mem


From: Xu Yilun
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/7] guest_memfd: Introduce an object to manage the guest-memfd with RamDiscardManager
Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2025 06:23:18 +0800

On Mon, Jan 13, 2025 at 11:34:44AM +0800, Chenyi Qiang wrote:
> 
> 
> On 1/10/2025 5:50 AM, Xu Yilun wrote:
> > On Fri, Jan 10, 2025 at 05:00:22AM +0800, Xu Yilun wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> https://github.com/aik/qemu/commit/3663f889883d4aebbeb0e4422f7be5e357e2ee46
> >>>>
> >>>> but I am not sure if this ever saw the light of the day, did not it?
> >>>> (ironically I am using it as a base for encrypted DMA :) )
> >>>
> >>> Yeah, we are doing the same work. I saw a solution from Michael long
> >>> time ago (when there was still
> >>> a dedicated hostmem-memfd-private backend for restrictedmem/gmem)
> >>> (https://github.com/AMDESE/qemu/commit/3bf5255fc48d648724d66410485081ace41d8ee6)
> >>>
> >>> For your patch, it only implement the interface for
> >>> HostMemoryBackendMemfd. Maybe it is more appropriate to implement it for
> >>> the parent object HostMemoryBackend, because besides the
> >>> MEMORY_BACKEND_MEMFD, other backend types like MEMORY_BACKEND_RAM and
> >>> MEMORY_BACKEND_FILE can also be guest_memfd-backed.
> >>>
> >>> Think more about where to implement this interface. It is still
> >>> uncertain to me. As I mentioned in another mail, maybe ram device memory
> >>> region would be backed by guest_memfd if we support TEE IO iommufd MMIO
> >>
> >> It is unlikely an assigned MMIO region would be backed by guest_memfd or be
> >> implemented as part of HostMemoryBackend. Nowadays assigned MMIO resource 
> >> is
> >> owned by VFIO types, and I assume it is still true for private MMIO.
> >>
> >> But I think with TIO, MMIO regions also need conversion. So I support an
> >> object, but maybe not guest_memfd_manager.
> > 
> > Sorry, I mean the name only covers private memory, but not private MMIO.
> 
> So you suggest renaming the object to cover the private MMIO. Then how

Yes.

> about page_conversion_manager, or page_attribute_manager?

Maybe memory_attribute_manager? Strictly speaking MMIO resource is not
backed by pages.

Thanks,
Yilun

> 
> > 
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >> Yilun
> >>
> >>> in future. Then a specific object is more appropriate. What's your 
> >>> opinion?
> >>>
> >>
> 



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