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Re: Let's remove some deprecated stuff


From: Alistair Francis
Subject: Re: Let's remove some deprecated stuff
Date: Mon, 3 May 2021 17:12:01 +1000

On Mon, May 3, 2021 at 2:49 PM Thomas Huth <thuth@redhat.com> wrote:
>
> On 03/05/2021 03.41, Alistair Francis wrote:
> > On Thu, Apr 29, 2021 at 8:00 PM Markus Armbruster <armbru@redhat.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> If you're cc'ed, you added a section to docs/system/deprecated.rst that
> >> is old enough to permit removal.  This is *not* a demand to remove, it's
> >> a polite request to consider whether the time for removal has come.
> >> Extra points for telling us in a reply.  "We should remove, but I can't
> >> do it myself right now" is a valid answer.  Let's review the file:
> >>
> >>      System emulator command line arguments
> >>      --------------------------------------
> >>
> >> Kővágó, Zoltán:
> >>
> >>      ``QEMU_AUDIO_`` environment variables and ``-audio-help`` (since 4.0)
> >>      '''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''
> >>
> >>      The ``-audiodev`` argument is now the preferred way to specify audio
> >>      backend settings instead of environment variables.  To ease migration 
> >> to
> >>      the new format, the ``-audiodev-help`` option can be used to convert
> >>      the current values of the environment variables to ``-audiodev`` 
> >> options.
> >>
> >> Kővágó, Zoltán:
> >>
> >>      Creating sound card devices and vnc without ``audiodev=`` property 
> >> (since 4.2)
> >>      
> >> ''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''
> >>
> >>      When not using the deprecated legacy audio config, each sound card
> >>      should specify an ``audiodev=`` property.  Additionally, when using
> >>      vnc, you should specify an ``audiodev=`` property if you plan to
> >>      transmit audio through the VNC protocol.
> >>
> >> Gerd Hoffmann:
> >>
> >>      Creating sound card devices using ``-soundhw`` (since 5.1)
> >>      ''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''
> >>
> >>      Sound card devices should be created using ``-device`` instead.  The
> >>      names are the same for most devices.  The exceptions are ``hda`` which
> >>      needs two devices (``-device intel-hda -device hda-duplex``) and
> >>      ``pcspk`` which can be activated using ``-machine
> >>      pcspk-audiodev=<name>``.
> >>
> >> [...]
> >>
> >> Alistair Francis:
> >>
> >>      RISC-V ``-bios`` (since 5.1)
> >>      ''''''''''''''''''''''''''''
> >>
> >>      QEMU 4.1 introduced support for the -bios option in QEMU for RISC-V 
> >> for the
> >>      RISC-V virt machine and sifive_u machine. QEMU 4.1 had no changes to 
> >> the
> >>      default behaviour to avoid breakages.
> >>
> >>      QEMU 5.1 changes the default behaviour from ``-bios none`` to ``-bios 
> >> default``.
> >>
> >>      QEMU 5.1 has three options:
> >>       1. ``-bios default`` - This is the current default behavior if no 
> >> -bios option
> >>            is included. This option will load the default OpenSBI firmware 
> >> automatically.
> >>            The firmware is included with the QEMU release and no user 
> >> interaction is
> >>            required. All a user needs to do is specify the kernel they 
> >> want to boot
> >>            with the -kernel option
> >>       2. ``-bios none`` - QEMU will not automatically load any firmware. 
> >> It is up
> >>            to the user to load all the images they need.
> >>       3. ``-bios <file>`` - Tells QEMU to load the specified file as the 
> >> firmwrae.
> >>
> >
> > This has already been acted upon in the code, we now default to
> > including a "bios" with RISC-V softmmu which is what this is
> > describing.
> >
> > Do we need to take any action to indicate that it's already in effect?
>
> deprecated.rst is mainly thought for the things that only have been marked
> as deprecated, but not changed yet. Once it's done, the items normally get
> moved to docs/system/removed-features.rst instead.

Too easy, I'll move it there instead.

Alistair

>
>   Thomas
>



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