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Re: [Qemu-devel] [RFC v2 0/8] monitor: allow per-monitor thread
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Dr. David Alan Gilbert |
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Re: [Qemu-devel] [RFC v2 0/8] monitor: allow per-monitor thread |
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Thu, 7 Sep 2017 11:04:02 +0100 |
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Mutt/1.8.3 (2017-05-23) |
* Daniel P. Berrange (address@hidden) wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 06, 2017 at 12:31:58PM +0100, Dr. David Alan Gilbert wrote:
> > * Daniel P. Berrange (address@hidden) wrote:
> > > This does imply that you need a separate monitor I/O processing, from the
> > > command execution thread, but I see no need for all commands to suddenly
> > > become async. Just allowing interleaved replies is sufficient from the
> > > POV of the protocol definition. This interleaving is easy to handle from
> > > the client POV - just requires a unique 'serial' in the request by the
> > > client, that is copied into the reply by QEMU.
> >
> > OK, so for that we can just take Marc-André's syntax and call it 'id':
> > https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/qemu-devel/2017-01/msg03634.html
> >
> > then it's upto the caller to ensure those id's are unique.
>
> Libvirt has in fact generated a unique 'id' for every monitor command
> since day 1 of supporting QMP.
>
> > I do worry about two things:
> > a) With this the caller doesn't really know which commands could be
> > in parallel - for example if we've got a recovery command that's
> > executed by this non-locking thread that's OK, we expect that
> > to be doable in parallel. If in the future though we do
> > what you initially suggested and have a bunch of commands get
> > routed to the migration thread (say) then those would suddenly
> > operate in parallel with other commands that we're previously
> > synchronous.
>
> We could still have an opt-in for async commands. eg default to executing
> all commands in the main thread, unless the client issues an explicit
> "make it async" command, to switch to allowing the migration thread to
> process it async.
>
> { "execute": "qmp_allow_async",
> "data": { "commands": [
> "migrate_cancel",
> ] } }
>
>
> { "return": { "commands": [
> "migrate_cancel",
> ] } }
>
> The server response contains the subset of commands from the request
> for which async is supported.
>
> That gives good negotiation ability going forward as we incrementally
> support async on more commands.
Is that 'qmp_allow_async' a command purely to query whether a command
is async or is it a wrapper to cause that command to be executed async?
> > b) I still worry how the various IO channels will behave on another
> > thread. But that's more a general feeling rather than anything
> > specific.
>
> The only complexity will be around making sure the Chardev code uses
> the right GMainContext for any watches on the underlying QIOChannel,
> so that we poll() from the custom thread instead of the main thread.
> IOW, as long as all I/O is done from the single thread everything
> should work fine.
Dave
> Regards,
> Daniel
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- Re: [Qemu-devel] [RFC v2 0/8] monitor: allow per-monitor thread, (continued)
- Re: [Qemu-devel] [RFC v2 0/8] monitor: allow per-monitor thread, Dr. David Alan Gilbert, 2017/09/07
- Re: [Qemu-devel] [RFC v2 0/8] monitor: allow per-monitor thread, Dr. David Alan Gilbert, 2017/09/07
- Re: [Qemu-devel] [RFC v2 0/8] monitor: allow per-monitor thread, Daniel P. Berrange, 2017/09/07
- Re: [Qemu-devel] [RFC v2 0/8] monitor: allow per-monitor thread, Markus Armbruster, 2017/09/07
- Re: [Qemu-devel] [RFC v2 0/8] monitor: allow per-monitor thread, Daniel P. Berrange, 2017/09/07
- Re: [Qemu-devel] [RFC v2 0/8] monitor: allow per-monitor thread, Markus Armbruster, 2017/09/07
- Re: [Qemu-devel] [RFC v2 0/8] monitor: allow per-monitor thread, Dr. David Alan Gilbert, 2017/09/07
- Re: [Qemu-devel] [RFC v2 0/8] monitor: allow per-monitor thread, Dr. David Alan Gilbert, 2017/09/07
- Re: [Qemu-devel] [RFC v2 0/8] monitor: allow per-monitor thread, Markus Armbruster, 2017/09/07
- Re: [Qemu-devel] [RFC v2 0/8] monitor: allow per-monitor thread, Dr. David Alan Gilbert, 2017/09/07
- Re: [Qemu-devel] [RFC v2 0/8] monitor: allow per-monitor thread,
Dr. David Alan Gilbert <=
- Re: [Qemu-devel] [RFC v2 0/8] monitor: allow per-monitor thread, Daniel P. Berrange, 2017/09/07
- Re: [Qemu-devel] [RFC v2 0/8] monitor: allow per-monitor thread, Eric Blake, 2017/09/07
- Re: [Qemu-devel] [RFC v2 0/8] monitor: allow per-monitor thread, Stefan Hajnoczi, 2017/09/06
- Re: [Qemu-devel] [RFC v2 0/8] monitor: allow per-monitor thread, Dr. David Alan Gilbert, 2017/09/06
- Re: [Qemu-devel] [RFC v2 0/8] monitor: allow per-monitor thread, Peter Xu, 2017/09/07
- Re: [Qemu-devel] [RFC v2 0/8] monitor: allow per-monitor thread, Stefan Hajnoczi, 2017/09/07
- Re: [Qemu-devel] [RFC v2 0/8] monitor: allow per-monitor thread, Dr. David Alan Gilbert, 2017/09/07
- Re: [Qemu-devel] [RFC v2 0/8] monitor: allow per-monitor thread, Stefan Hajnoczi, 2017/09/07
- Re: [Qemu-devel] [RFC v2 0/8] monitor: allow per-monitor thread, Peter Xu, 2017/09/07
- Re: [Qemu-devel] [RFC v2 0/8] monitor: allow per-monitor thread, Stefan Hajnoczi, 2017/09/07