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Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 10/17] mm: rmap preparation for remap_anon_pages
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Peter Feiner |
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Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 10/17] mm: rmap preparation for remap_anon_pages |
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Tue, 7 Oct 2014 09:13:20 -0700 |
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On Tue, Oct 07, 2014 at 05:52:47PM +0200, Andrea Arcangeli wrote:
> I probably grossly overestimated the benefits of resolving the
> userfault with a zerocopy page move, sorry. [...]
For posterity, I think it's worth noting that most expensive aspect of a TLB
shootdown is the interprocessor interrupt necessary to flush other CPUs' TLBs.
On a many-core machine, copying 4K of data looks pretty cheap compared to
taking an interrupt and invalidating TLBs on many cores :-)
> [...] So if we entirely drop the
> zerocopy behavior and the TLB flush of the old page like you
> suggested, the way to keep the userfaultfd mechanism decoupled from
> the userfault resolution mechanism would be to implement an
> atomic-copy syscall. That would work for SIGBUS userfaults too without
> requiring a pseudofd then. It would be enough then to call
> mcopy_atomic(userfault_addr,tmp_addr,len) with the only constraints
> that len must be a multiple of PAGE_SIZE. Of course mcopy_atomic
> wouldn't page fault or call GUP into the destination address (it can't
> otherwise the in-flight partial copy would be visible to the process,
> breaking the atomicity of the copy), but it would fill in the
> pte/trans_huge_pmd with the same strict behavior that remap_anon_pages
> currently has (in turn it would by design bypass the VM_USERFAULT
> check and be ideal for resolving userfaults).
>
> mcopy_atomic could then be also extended to tmpfs and it would work
> without requiring the source page to be a tmpfs page too without
> having to convert page types on the fly.
>
> If I add mcopy_atomic, the patch in subject (10/17) can be dropped of
> course so it'd be even less intrusive than the current
> remap_anon_pages and it would require zero TLB flush during its
> runtime (it would just require an atomic copy).
I like this new approach. It will be good to have a single interface for
resolving anon and tmpfs userfaults.
> So should I try to embed a mcopy_atomic inside userfault_write or can
> I expose it to userland as a standalone new syscall? Or should I do
> something different? Comments?
One interesting (ab)use of userfault_write would be that the faulting process
and the fault-handling process could be different, which would be necessary
for post-copy live migration in CRIU (http://criu.org).
Aside from the asthetic difference, I can't think of any advantage in favor of
a syscall.
Peter
- [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 07/17] mm: madvise MADV_USERFAULT: prepare vm_flags to allow more than 32bits, (continued)
- [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 07/17] mm: madvise MADV_USERFAULT: prepare vm_flags to allow more than 32bits, Andrea Arcangeli, 2014/10/03
- [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 10/17] mm: rmap preparation for remap_anon_pages, Andrea Arcangeli, 2014/10/03
- Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 10/17] mm: rmap preparation for remap_anon_pages, Linus Torvalds, 2014/10/03
- Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 10/17] mm: rmap preparation for remap_anon_pages, Dr. David Alan Gilbert, 2014/10/06
- Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 10/17] mm: rmap preparation for remap_anon_pages, Andrea Arcangeli, 2014/10/06
- Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 10/17] mm: rmap preparation for remap_anon_pages, Linus Torvalds, 2014/10/07
- Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 10/17] mm: rmap preparation for remap_anon_pages, Andrea Arcangeli, 2014/10/07
- Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 10/17] mm: rmap preparation for remap_anon_pages, Andrea Arcangeli, 2014/10/07
- Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 10/17] mm: rmap preparation for remap_anon_pages, Andy Lutomirski, 2014/10/07
- Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 10/17] mm: rmap preparation for remap_anon_pages,
Peter Feiner <=
- Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 10/17] mm: rmap preparation for remap_anon_pages, Linus Torvalds, 2014/10/07
- Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 10/17] mm: rmap preparation for remap_anon_pages, Dr. David Alan Gilbert, 2014/10/07
- Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 10/17] mm: rmap preparation for remap_anon_pages, Paolo Bonzini, 2014/10/07
- Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 10/17] mm: rmap preparation for remap_anon_pages, Dr. David Alan Gilbert, 2014/10/07
Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 10/17] mm: rmap preparation for remap_anon_pages, Kirill A. Shutemov, 2014/10/07
[Qemu-devel] [PATCH 02/17] mm: gup: add get_user_pages_locked and get_user_pages_unlocked, Andrea Arcangeli, 2014/10/03
[Qemu-devel] [PATCH 05/17] mm: gup: use get_user_pages_fast and get_user_pages_unlocked, Andrea Arcangeli, 2014/10/03
[Qemu-devel] [PATCH 12/17] mm: sys_remap_anon_pages, Andrea Arcangeli, 2014/10/03
[Qemu-devel] [PATCH 17/17] userfaultfd: implement USERFAULTFD_RANGE_REGISTER|UNREGISTER, Andrea Arcangeli, 2014/10/03