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Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] vhost: force vhost off for non-MSI guests
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Alex Williamson |
Subject: |
Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] vhost: force vhost off for non-MSI guests |
Date: |
Thu, 20 Jan 2011 18:35:46 -0700 |
On Thu, 2011-01-20 at 18:23 -0600, Anthony Liguori wrote:
> On 01/20/2011 10:07 AM, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> > On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 09:43:57AM -0600, Anthony Liguori wrote:
> >
> >> On 01/20/2011 09:35 AM, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> >>
> >>> When MSI is off, each interrupt needs to be bounced through the io
> >>> thread when it's set/cleared, so vhost-net causes more context switches
> >>> and
> >>> higher CPU utilization than userspace virtio which handles networking in
> >>> the same thread.
> >>>
> >>> We'll need to fix this by adding level irq support in kvm irqfd,
> >>> for now disable vhost-net in these configurations.
> >>>
> >>> Signed-off-by: Michael S. Tsirkin<address@hidden>
> >>>
> >> I actually think this should be a terminal error. The user asks for
> >> vhost-net, if we cannot enable it, we should exit.
> >>
> >> Or we should warn the user that they should expect bad performance.
> >> Silently doing something that the user has explicitly asked us not
> >> to do is not a good behavior.
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >>
> >> Anthony Liguori
> >>
> > The issue is that user has no control of the guest, and can not know
> > whether the guest enables MSI. So what you ask for will just make
> > some guests fail, and others fail sometimes.
> > The user also has no way to know that version X of kvm does not expose a
> > way to inject level interrupts with irqfd.
> >
> > We could have *another* flag that says "use vhost where it helps" but
> > then I think this is what everyone wants to do, anyway, and libvirt
> > already sets vhost=on so I prefer redefining the meaning of an existing
> > flag.
> >
>
> In the very least, there needs to be a vhost=force.
>
> Having some sort of friendly default policy is fine but we need to
> provide a mechanism for a user to have the final say. If you want to
> redefine vhost=on to really mean, use the friendly default, that's fine
> by me, but only if the vhost=force option exists.
>
> I actually would think libvirt would want to use vhost=force. Debugging
> with vhost=on is going to be a royal pain in the ass if a user reports
> bad performance. Given the libvirt XML, you can't actually tell from
> the guest and the XML whether or not vhost was actually in use or not.
If we add a force option, let's please distinguish hotplug from VM
creation time. The latter can abort. Hotplug should print an error and
fail the initfn. Thanks,
Alex
- [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] vhost: force vhost off for non-MSI guests, Michael S. Tsirkin, 2011/01/20
- Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] vhost: force vhost off for non-MSI guests, Anthony Liguori, 2011/01/20
- Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] vhost: force vhost off for non-MSI guests, Michael S. Tsirkin, 2011/01/20
- Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] vhost: force vhost off for non-MSI guests, Anthony Liguori, 2011/01/20
- Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] vhost: force vhost off for non-MSI guests,
Alex Williamson <=
- Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] vhost: force vhost off for non-MSI guests, Michael S. Tsirkin, 2011/01/21
- Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] vhost: force vhost off for non-MSI guests, Alex Williamson, 2011/01/21
- Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] vhost: force vhost off for non-MSI guests, Michael S. Tsirkin, 2011/01/21
- Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] vhost: force vhost off for non-MSI guests, Anthony Liguori, 2011/01/21
- Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] vhost: force vhost off for non-MSI guests, Michael S. Tsirkin, 2011/01/21
- Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] vhost: force vhost off for non-MSI guests, Anthony Liguori, 2011/01/21
- [Qemu-devel] Re: [PATCH] vhost: force vhost off for non-MSI guests, Sridhar Samudrala, 2011/01/20
- [Qemu-devel] Re: [PATCH] vhost: force vhost off for non-MSI guests, Alex Williamson, 2011/01/20