I think today that few users (of any OS) distinguish PSPP from
PSPPIRE. We still regularly get people posting to this list asking
how to do something using the GUI with some disclaimer like
("because I can't use syntax"). Most of the students I've taught
SPSS are open to running a couple lines of syntax, but they get a
"deer in the headlights" look when you show them an analysis in
syntax.
About re-writing PSPPIRE for Windows, that would be a big job.
While having more Windows-specific expertise would be nice, in the
meanwhile I am glad that PSPP is available in Windows through
Harry's cross-compilation efforts.
John and the other developers have worked with Harry to fix bugs
that arise only in Windows. If non-developers wanted to help make
"PSPP for Windows" better, we should create a testing program to
find bugs in the Windows version.
-Alan
On 2/24/2016 4:33 PM, Frans Houweling
wrote:
For those >90%, shouldn't PSPPIRE be called just that instead
of "PSPP for Windows"? The problems we are talking about are
merely cross-platform GUI compatibility issues, and with all due
respect (I like PSPPIRE a lot) I think it's unfair that PSPP's
reputation should suffer from this.
Maybe some day we will have lots of "yet-an-other" or
"just-an-other" graphical front-ends for PSSP.
frans
On 02/24/2016 10:08 PM, Alan Mead wrote:
John,
It sounds like I'm wasting your time appealing to your
sympathies for >90% of the software users world-wide. That's
fine.
On 2/24/2016 2:20 PM, John Darrington wrote:
Pspp builds fine for me on a stable Debian release. If you can provide
details of the problem preventing you from building on CentOS we will try
to address that.
I think it's no more complex than PSPP having library
requirements that CentOS 6 will never meet (without
developer-level efforts). We can also see that PSPP's
requirements are accelerating away from CentOS 6. Here are the
details:
./confgure on pspp-0.8.5 produces:
configure: error: The following
required prerequisites are not installed.
You must install them before PSPP can be built:
glib 2.0 version 2.32 or later (or use
--without-gui)
address@hidden pspp-0.8.5]$ rpm -qi glib2
Name : glib2 Relocations: (not
relocatable)
Version : 2.28.8 Vendor: CentOS
Release : 4.el6 Build Date: Wed 15
Oct 2014 01:33:45 PM CDT
Install Date: Thu 11 Dec 2014 09:14:21 AM CST Build Host:
c6b8.bsys.dev.centos.org
Group : System Environment/Libraries Source RPM:
glib2-2.28.8-4.el6.src.rpm
Size : 8047174 License:
LGPLv2+
Signature : RSA/SHA1, Fri 17 Oct 2014 03:02:33 PM CDT, Key
ID 0946fca2c105b9de
Packager : CentOS BuildSystem <http://bugs.centos.org>
URL : http://www.gtk.org
Summary : A library of handy utility functions
Description :
GLib is the low-level core library that forms the basis for
projects
such as GTK+ and GNOME. It provides data structure handling
for C,
portability wrappers, and interfaces for such runtime
functionality
as an event loop, threads, dynamic loading, and an object
system.
This is the latest version of glib2 provided for CentOS 6.
./configure on pspp-0.9.0-g072d1b produces this:
configure: error: The following
required prerequisites are not installed.
You must install them before PSPP can be built:
gtk+ 3.0 version 3.4.2 or later (or use
--without-gui)
gtksourceview 3.0 version 3.4.2 or later (or
use --without-gui)
glib 2.0 version 2.32 or later (or use
--without-gui)
address@hidden pspp-0.9.0-g072d1b]$ rpm -qi gtk2 gtksourceview2
Name : gtk2 Relocations: (not
relocatable)
Version : 2.24.23 Vendor: CentOS
Release : 6.el6 Build Date: Fri 17
Oct 2014 04:22:08 AM CDT
Install Date: Thu 11 Dec 2014 09:14:37 AM CST Build Host:
c6b9.bsys.dev.centos.org
Group : System Environment/Libraries Source RPM:
gtk2-2.24.23-6.el6.src.rpm
Size : 12452995 License:
LGPLv2+
Signature : RSA/SHA1, Fri 17 Oct 2014 03:01:59 PM CDT, Key
ID 0946fca2c105b9de
Packager : CentOS BuildSystem <http://bugs.centos.org>
URL : http://www.gtk.org
Summary : The GIMP ToolKit (GTK+), a library for creating
GUIs for X
Description :
GTK+ is a multi-platform toolkit for creating graphical user
interfaces. Offering a complete set of widgets, GTK+ is
suitable for
projects ranging from small one-off tools to complete
application
suites.
Name : gtksourceview2 Relocations: (not
relocatable)
Version : 2.8.2 Vendor: CentOS
Release : 4.el6 Build Date: Thu 11
Nov 2010 10:43:31 PM CST
Install Date: Fri 11 Nov 2011 03:45:16 PM CST Build Host:
c5b2.bsys.dev.centos.org
Group : System Environment/Libraries Source RPM:
gtksourceview2-2.8.2-4.el6.src.rpm
Size : 2961012 License:
LGPLv2+ and GPLv2+
Signature : RSA/8, Sat 02 Jul 2011 11:20:47 PM CDT, Key ID
0946fca2c105b9de
Packager : CentOS BuildSystem <http://bugs.centos.org>
URL : http://gtksourceview.sourceforge.net/
Summary : A library for viewing source files
Description :
GtkSourceView is a text widget that extends the standard GTK+
GtkTextView widget. It improves GtkTextView by implementing
syntax highlighting and other features typical of a source
code editor.
This package contains version 2 of GtkSourceView. The older
version
1 is contains in the gtksourceview package.
There is no package for CentOS 6 that supplies GTK+ 3 or
gtksourceview 3 and glib 2.28.8 is the latest glib for CentOS 6.
-Alan
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I've... seen things you people wouldn't believe...
functions on fire in a copy of Orion.
I watched C-Sharp glitter in the dark near a programmable gate.
All those moments will be lost in time, like Ruby... on... Rails... Time for Pi.
--"The Register" user Alister, applying the famous
"Blade Runner" speech to software development
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