Re: RE: RE: [Phpgroupware-users] open_basedir restriction

[Dave Hall]

Brian Connolly <address@hidden> wrote:

> Dave,
> 
> Okay... let me say it more plainly... I am sorry you may have 
> missed the
> subtle point that I am a user and I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE f*^& THAT s^%&
> MEANS.

Ok, I may be wrong, but phpGroupWare requires some basic knowledge of
the self help tools available on the internet and System Administration.
 I gave some pointers in the start of my last email.

> 
> Great tutorial, but what are you trying to say Sparky?  

I thought I was pretty clear.  I told you the answers you needed, and
also gave you some tips on how to help yourself next time.  If you would
like instant fixes then look at the commercial support section of our
website.  You can pay someone to do all the work for you, and you just
sit back and say "wow phpGroupWare is good".  If you want to learn, then
do some research yourself, we all had to learn.  Remember support on
this list is provided free of charge by real people in their own time.  

> 
> I simply turned to the list because I reasonably expect a straight 
> answer.People that don't know give do Googles and subsequent 
> tutorials.

You were given many answers and suggestions.  I noticed that most of
your responses were sarcastic or displayed a high level of ignorance.
btw I knew the answer, the tutorial was for you benefit.


> Bottom line: phpgw is reporting an error.  Is there actually 
> someone on the
> list that can provide actual direction rather that intellectual self
> pleasure?

I think you should re read the thead.  The answers you need are all
there.  The time it would take you re read the whole thread is probably
longer than the time it would have taken you to find the answers on
php.net or using google.com  As for "intellectual self pleasure", for
me, that certainly doesn't come from these types of discussions.  It
comes from learning and creating code, which I am now going to return to
doing.

This is a problem with your host.  The information you need to raise the
issue with them is all in this thread.

Cheers

Dave


> 
> Brian
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: address@hidden
> [mailto:phpgroupware-users-
> address@hidden On
> Behalf Of Dave Hall
> Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2003 6:24 PM
> To: address@hidden
> Subject: Re: RE: [Phpgroupware-users] open_basedir restriction
> 
> I have followed this thread.  Some simple tips:
> * Google is your friend
> * php.net is your friend
> * Read an follow "How To Ask Questions The Smart Way" -
> http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
> 
> I have just spent less than 5 mins using the above tips.  Here are the
> results.
> 
> * http://php.net/configuration gave me some info on run time config
> settings for php.  
> 
> * I read that page, the part i found most interesting was 
> "Not every PHP directive is documented below. For a list of all
> directives, please read your well commented php.ini file. You may want
> to view the latest php.ini here from CVS.", so I clicked on that link.
> 
> * Searched the page for open_basedir and found, 
> "; open_basedir, if set, limits all file operations to the defined 
> directory; and below.  This directive makes most sense if used in a 
> per-directory
> ; or per-virtualhost web server configuration file. This directive is
> ; *NOT* affected by whether Safe Mode is turned On or Off."
> 
> * I wanted a little more information, so went back to search the 
> php.netsite.  I used "open_basedir" in the "online documentation 
> [en]" for my
> search.  There was 32 google search results.  
> 
> * I selected the first option which took me to
> http://php.net/features.safe-mode
> 
> * Again I searched the page for "open_basedir".  I found this,
> "open_basedir  string
> 
>    Limit the files that can be opened by PHP to the specified
> directory-tree, including the file itself. This directive is NOT
> affected by whether Safe Mode is turned On or Off.
> 
>    When a script tries to open a file with, for example, fopen() or
> gzopen(), the location of the file is checked. When the file is 
> outsidethe specified directory-tree, PHP will refuse to open it. 
> All symbolic
> links are resolved, so it's not possible to avoid this restriction 
> witha symlink.
> 
>    The special value . indicates that the directory in which the 
> scriptis stored will be used as base-directory.
> 
>    Under Windows, separate the directories with a semicolon. On all
> other systems, separate the directories with a colon. As an Apache
> module, open_basedir paths from parent directories are now 
> automaticallyinherited.
> 
>    The restriction specified with open_basedir is actually a prefix,
> not a directory name. This means that "open_basedir = /dir/incl" also
> allows access to "/dir/include" and "/dir/incls" if they exist. 
> When you
> want to restrict access to only the specified directory, end with a
> slash. For example: "open_basedir = /dir/incl/"
> 
>        Note: Support for multiple directories was added in 3.0.7. 
> 
>    The default is to allow all files to be opened. "
> 
> Now I don't have to be sarcastic when people are giving up their 
> time to
> try to help me, because I can look for the answers myself.  I also 
> knowthat I may take more than 5mins to find the answers I am 
> looking for,
> but I keep on practising so I get better and faster.  I also bookmark
> useful information and categorise it so it is easier to find the 
> answersnext time.
> 
> I hope this little tutorial will help you too.
> 
> 
> Cheers
> 
> Dave
> 
> Brian Connolly <address@hidden> wrote:
> 
> > Chris,
> > 
> > Yes, I am familiar with phpinfo.  Certainly lots of stuff there.  
> > But with
> > regards to specifics, for the most part I am able to discern blue 
> > shadedwith gray.  Which color should I stress with the provider?  
> I 
> > am rather fond
> > of gray.  But if I tell the provider that, I may unduly influence 
> > him.  What
> > do you think?
> > 
> > This has been very helpful.  I greatly appreciate your facility 
> > with the
> > subject.
> > 
> > Brian
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: address@hidden
> > [mailto:phpgroupware-users-
> > address@hidden On
> > Behalf Of Chris Weiss
> > Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2003 2:00 PM
> > To: address@hidden
> > Subject: RE: [Phpgroupware-users] open_basedir restriction
> > 
> > Soory, I just found it really unsettling that the title of the 
> > thread is
> > "open_basedir restriction", we've been talking about the 
> open_basedir> restriction,
> > and you stop and ask "what restriction".  You can probably find 
> the 
> > info you
> > need in
> > a phpinfo() page, there's a link for one at the bottom of the phpgw
> > administration
> > section, it's in the side bar if you use iDots template.
> > 
> > Brian Connolly (address@hidden) wrote:
> > >
> > >Chris,
> > >
> > >No need for insult.  What is simple to you may not be so simple 
> to 
> > others.>This is the users list.
> > >
> > >With regard to asking the provider, I need to be exact and 
> > specific or my
> > >response will be equally ambiguous.  I do not know exactly what 
> to 
> > ask.  As
> > >a user, I don't know what an open_basedir restriction is.  I 
> don't 
> > knowwhat
> > >your code is doing to incite it.  I assumed you would.
> > >
> > >Brian
> > >
> > >-----Original Message-----
> > >From: address@hidden
> > >[mailto:phpgroupware-users-
> > address@hidden On
> > >Behalf Of Chris Weiss
> > >Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2003 12:09 PM
> > >To: address@hidden
> > >Subject: RE: [Phpgroupware-users] open_basedir restriction
> > >
> > >Brian Connolly (address@hidden) wrote:
> > >>With regard to restrictions, can you tell me what to ask the 
> > provider>>please?
> > >
> > >oh i dunno, maybe the one we've been talking about and the 
> Subject 
> > of the
> > >thread?
> > >
> > >
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