Re: [Phpgroupware-users] CK-Ledger v.0.3.1 released

[C K Wu]

Hi, Bob,

I've look through the case.  Without adding in too many fancy features,
I should be about to squeeze bank reconciliation into the next release
of CK-Ledger, which should be ready in about two months' time.

Cheers,
CK

C K Wu wrote:

> Hi, Bob,
>
> Um....  Let me do a bit of analysis on how much to include in such a module
> and thus the effort involved.  I'll come back to you in a few hours' time.
>
> Cheers,
> CK
>
> Bob Crandell wrote:
>
> > Hi C K Wu,
> >
> > Most of my clients would be very interested in the bank reconciliation.  
> > Lots of
> > them (I don't know how many) outsource their payroll.  How open are you to 
> > switching
> >  these 2 modules finishing the reconciliation module first?
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > C K Wu (address@hidden) wrote*:
> > >
> > >Hi, Bob,
> > >
> > >Hsing-Foo is right about SME.  It stands for Small to Medium size 
> > >Enterprise.
> > >The target users of CK-Ledger are organizations that have about 10-100 
> > >employees,
> > >computer users, etc.  They would probably have at least one system admin, 
> > >and
> > >an accountant that is fairly familiar with computer systems.
> > >
> > >Before I go any further.  Let me throw in a standard rider.  The software 
> > >is
> > >still in beta, so bugs are inevitable.
> > >
> > >The immediate plan for CK-Ledger is to complete a payrol module, which
> > >will bring it on par with similar software, such as NOLA.  Bank
> > >reconciliation will be high on the agenda, but I am afraid it won't be 
> > >added
> > >till several months later.
> > >
> > >Cheers,
> > >CK
> > >
> > >Bob Crandell wrote:
> > >
> > >> Hi,
> > >>
> > >> One of the things that bother me about SQL-Ledger is it won't reconcile 
> > >> bank
> > >> statements yet.  It is on his todo list.  Does CK-Ledger?
> > >>
> > >> I'm not an accountant and all I know about it is debits are closest to 
> > >> the
> > >> window.  I'm in the position of needing someone else to tell me if it's 
> > >> what I
> > >> want/need.  What's SME?
> > >>
> > >> Thanks.
> > >>
> > >> Marc Lutolf (address@hidden) wrote*:
> > >> >
> > >> >We are using A/R and services, but just starting up. We are using them 
> > >> >in a
> > >> >German setting, so we're still wrestling with translation problems.
> > >> >
> > >> >We initially looked at SQL Ledger and I have to say it's a pretty good
> > >> >product. On the other hand I don't want to add Perl to the mix we 
> > >> >already
> > >> >have and we would like to have the possibility of customizing the code 
> > >> >if
> > >> >need be, so PHP is a good thing.
> > >> >Having the permissions infrastructure and OOP stuff that phpgw brings 
> > >> >to the
> > >> >party has made it easy to build on a foundation that's already solid.
> > >> >
> > >> >CK-Ledger has come very very far in a short time. It still needs a lot 
> > >> >of UI
> > >> >work to make it handle a bit easily, but the functionality is quite 
> > >> >there.
> > >> >With the new HR module (which I havn't looked at yet) this should be a
> > >> >fairly complete accounting package for SME.
> > >> >
> > >> >Also, I can say from experience that CK Wu is very responsive to 
> > >> >enhancement
> > >> >requests. That in itself is worth it's weight in truffles (or gold, if 
> > >> >you
> > >> >prefer).
> > >> >
> > >> >Is it mature enough? Well, it was in alpha until about 3 months ago, if 
> > >> >I
> > >> >recall correctly. In my view an accounting program has to be able to 
> > >> >post
> > >> >and balance. Yes, it does that and it doesn't break. Everything else is 
> > >> >UI
> > >> >or nice to have. As long as the functionality is there I'll tweak the
> > >> >templates to make it look the way I want. That said CK-Ledger still 
> > >> >needs
> > >> >user feedback to iron out the little things that make a user's life a 
> > >> >bit
> > >> >more comfortable.
> > >> >
> > >> >If you know phpgw the setup is actually quite simple. If not the
> > >> >installation instructions posted on sourceforge are quite good, better 
> > >> >than
> > >> >most. But if "mature" means installing out of the box this morning and
> > >> >having your accountant posting after lunch, well, soon but not quite 
> > >> >yet.
> > >> >
> > >> >I'm a big fan of this app. It's a nice piece of work. I'd be very happy 
> > >> >if
> > >> >more people used it.
> > >> >
> > >> >Marc
> > >> >
> > >> >-----Original Message-----
> > >> >From: address@hidden
> > >> >[mailto:address@hidden Behalf Of Bob Crandell
> > >> >Sent: 26 November 2002 15:58
> > >> >To: address@hidden
> > >> >Subject: Re: [Phpgroupware-users] CK-Ledger v.0.3.1 released
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >Hi,
> > >> >
> > >> >Is anyone using this for real yet?  Is it mature enough yet?  We are 
> > >> >using
> > >> >Quickbooks now and hate it.  I have been looking at SQL-Ledger but 
> > >> >having
> > >> >accounting
> > >> >in the same interface as phpGroupware might be better.
> > >> >
> > >> >Thanks
> > >> >
> > >> >address@hidden
> > >> >www.assuredcomp.com
> > >> >Eugene, Or. 97402
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >
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