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Re: [Paparazzi-devel] Quad Tilt Rotor using Lisa/M


From: David Conger
Subject: Re: [Paparazzi-devel] Quad Tilt Rotor using Lisa/M
Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2014 21:04:01 -0800

Hey Mark,

Have you see this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z7XgRK7pMoU

Transitioning platform code is written and tested in Paparazzi
already. Note the landings of the winged body (Quadshot) as it nears
landing it switches to hover and lands. The wind was howling that day
(I was there)...easily 20+ MPH.

What makes Paparazzi the one to use is the maturity and depth of the
code. The real world is not still air and perfect conditions.
Paparazzi excels in real world conditions and very imperfect weather.

PixHawk, my opinion is it's new hardware and untested. That project
measures itself primarily in business terms of units made and sold not
successful flights or missions and competitions won. Granted they are
extremely successful in business terms but I have yet to see success
measured in real world missions or competitions. They are very
aggressive marketers and are very good at selling their project so I'm
not surprised you were contacted after posting here. They also have
many members subscribed to this email list.

Paparazzi is used by quite a lot of people actually. It is a very
mature, open and growing community. They are all just quietly doing
academics or research projects very much like yours not sales or
marketing. There are even several commercial platforms with Paparazzi
under the hood. A few Govt projects using Paparazzi based systems.
There are Paparazzi drones flying for more than 7 years in the Arctic
and Antarctic regions doing atmospheric research. These are not people
planning but real, complex missions like yours successfully flying.
Success in Paparazzi terms is measured in members starting, building
and flying the mission intended with 100% accuracy and zero failure.
Success is also measured in winning UAV competitions around the World.
Paparazzi since 2002 has either won or placed top three every year,
year after year. A Paparazzi based team TUDelft won the outdoor and
indoor competition for IMAV2013 by flying simultaneously 12 drones
with a single operator using a single laptop ground station (video URL
given above).

I think you have chosen Paparazzi so I'm probably preaching to the
choir. You've made a great choice. You are in good company here and
there are many in the USA and Worldwide to help you along. Welcome.

David




On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 5:27 PM, Richardson, Mark E C1C USAF USAFA
CW/CS13 <address@hidden> wrote:
> Reto, thanks so much for the information, I will be contacting Piotr and 
> Wagter and see if they can offer me any guidance on this. As far as the 
> transition deliverables you posted, I don’t think we will attempt to reach 
> such high efficiency just yet;  the innovative part of our project is that 
> the quad tilt rotor has the capability of being stored in an un-deployed 
> configuration and  remotely deploying itself (if everything goes correctly, 
> it will do this mid air after being dropped from 4000' AGL and using a drag 
> chute to slow it down) However, if it all goes correctly, we will most likely 
> see if there is anything we can do to improve efficiency.
>
> Chris, after looking at the pictures of the VERTI4 I think you are 
> underestimating 60", that’s 5 full feet which after testing our wing out, 
> seems closer to double the size of the one in the youtube video. Also, the 
> wing was manufactured to be able to handle our total 12lb weight through a 3G 
> turn so hopefully we can catch enough speed that the wing will no longer be 
> just decoration.
>
> What are your opinions on the Pixhawk Autopilot, I just had it suggested to 
> me after the last post.
>
> PS - I just got a hold of a tiny computer and put UBUNTU on  it, 
> unfortunately I'm not allowed to hook it up to the GOV network we use so I 
> will have to get a 4G wifi hotspot before I can download and start to work 
> with the Paparazzi software  --- also put through a request for an order of 
> the Lisa/M which will hopefully be ordered tomorrow;  what is the shipping 
> time usually on this and what accessories come with it?
>
>
> Again thanks so much to all of you for giving my teams project some time. I 
> will do my best to keep this site updated on the progress and will definitely 
> post questions to get more help.
>
>
>
> Thanks!!!
>
> Mark Richardson
> USAF Academy
>
>
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