Re: [Paparazzi-devel] mailing list vs. forum -> maybe google groups as compromise?

[gatib]

Hi,

I know that it is very personal and subjective approach, but I would be a
bit disappointed if this project lands on google server.

Balazs







> Hi,
>
> There is an API for google groups to import old archives into google
> groups. The biggest challenge will be to get to the archives, as savannah
> is not very responsive. :) So it is possible to migrate the current
> archives. Additionally I would propose to connect our list to
> http://gmane.org/. As their search and browsing interface for archives is
> one of the better ones out there. This will also add more redundancy to
> our "past knowledge" so that we don't loose it.
>
> Yes we need to have the archives properly synchronised so that no matter
> what place people look for information they will find it.
>
> I know about the bias of many people to rather use forums, I personally
> think forums are a horrible system, and the best way to burry information
> so that no one will ever find them again. But that is just me. :)
>
> So just to sum up:
>
> * Google Groups +1
> * Gmaine archive +1
> * Forum 0
>
> Cheers Piotr
>
> On Aug 9, 2013, at 10:59 AM, Alexander Biersack
> <address@hidden> wrote:
>
>> Databases are nice and good, but a system that could import the history
>> would be preferable, wouldnt it?
>>
>> That way users would not have to search in two places if they want to
>> find something, in the database and in the new system. A database also
>> means extra work, because you will have to support the new system and
>> the database and new people may not know about the database one day...
>>
>> My personal opinion is, that a forum would be progress over a mailing
>> system, a forum also allows mail notification as now. But of course I
>> dont know what bad experiences you made and how...
>>
>> Alex
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Aug 9, 2013 at 7:06 PM, David Conger <address@hidden> wrote:
>> That seems to be the right question. I want to believe there is a way to
>> move forward and bring along the past knowledge somehow. I will think on
>> the database part as that is something I know about.
>>
>> -- David
>>
>> On Aug 9, 2013, at 10:01 AM, Felix Ruess <address@hidden> wrote:
>>
>>> Well, the current archive would not disappear... I would not start
>>> creating our own archive database. Not sure if you can import posts...
>>>
>>> But the main question is if we get any benefits from moving to Google
>>> groups in the first place.
>>>
>>> On Aug 9, 2013 6:42 PM, "David Conger" <address@hidden> wrote:
>>> What would become of the historical messages in the archive? I still
>>> search the archives to find information I use from past topics.
>>>
>>> Idea: a mongo (or ?) database to store and keep that contains all those
>>> past topics and comments.
>>>
>>> Anyone who has not searched the archives should. There are so many
>>> things answered and discussed over and over again. New members should
>>> first search before writing the list for this reason. Most newbies will
>>> fond their answers there.
>>>
>>> Now moving to a new way (Google) would to me seem to need to also bring
>>> along that history in some form to avoid repeatedly answering already
>>> discussed topics. Is there a way? Do I make sense?
>>>
>>> -- David Conger
>>>
>>> On Aug 9, 2013, at 8:17 AM, Felix Ruess <address@hidden> wrote:
>>>
>>> > Hi all,
>>> >
>>> > the question of a forum came up again lately and since a pure forum
>>> already failed in the past one proposition was to maybe move to
>>> google groups, which more or less allows usage as either a normal
>>> mailing list (you DON'T need a google account) or in a more forum
>>> like style via the web interface.
>>> >
>>> > Maybe google groups is a bit more accessible for new users than the
>>> pure mailing list we have now?
>>> > Also searching google groups for previous questions/posts/solutions
>>> is probably nicer than searching the current paparazzi-devel archive.
>>> >
>>> > So what are your thoughts on this? Would it make sense to move the
>>> mailing list to google groups (or something else)? Or maybe use
>>> several lists, one for users and one for development discussion?
>>> >
>>> > Personally I'm fine with either keeping the current paparazzi-devel
>>> list or moving to google groups.
>>> >
>>> > Cheers, Felix
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