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Re: [Paparazzi-devel] Lost in motors


From: Andrius Batalauskas
Subject: Re: [Paparazzi-devel] Lost in motors
Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2012 14:07:03 +0100 (CET)

Horayyy!

That´s exactly the message box we needed! Thx!

The group from which we got the copter adjusted their yaw with the right stick for some reason, not the left one. Switched "Roll" and "Yaw" channel in our radio xml.

For the archive:
Message/debug output is found under "Paparazzi Center" (main window; not the GCS window) / Tools(top menu) / Messages. There click the items to the left to see some values to the right.


Am 04.12.2012 22:40, schrieb Eduardo lavratti:
you need to open messages program.
See TOOLS menu.


Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2012 21:40:20 +0100
From: address@hidden
To: address@hidden
Subject: Re: [Paparazzi-devel] Lost in cam and motors

Still no luck in finding current yaw value, sorry.
I don´t get any yaw messages in the message field to the right (they should be there, right?). See the pic attached...


Am 28.11.2012 22:59, schrieb Felix Ruess:
In the GCS go to settings->telemetry and switch the telemetry mode to PPM.
Look at the yaw in the ROTORCRAFT_RADIO_CONTROL message, it should be at +-9600 in the corners.
The PPM messages has your channels with the pulse times in us.
You should "calibrate" your rc transmitter with the radio file in any case...


On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 10:42 PM, Andrius Batalauskas <address@hidden> wrote:
Yeah, I thought about that. See the radio xml attached. Is there a way to see the yaw response just like the throttle response? Would be nice for debugging purposes...

Am 28.11.2012 18:07, schrieb Felix Ruess:
Did you calibrate the min/max values of your rc and put them in your radio XML file? You should get the min or max yaw command if you push the stick into the corner.
If you don't, the threshold might not be reached and thus the motors not armed.
Cheers, Felix
On Nov 28, 2012 5:37 PM, "Eduardo lavratti" <address@hidden> wrote:
you dont need <define name="AUTOPILOT_DISABLE_AHRS_KILL"/>
i think this will disable the secure feature when the motor not start if AHRS are not lock.
Are ou sure the kill swith are disabled ?

for the cam you need some config like this in your airframe:
i not remember if this config is for cam module.
<section name="PANTILT" prefix="CAM_">
    <define name="PAN_MIN" value="-45"/>
    <define name="PAN_NEUTRAL" value="0"/>
    <define name="PAN_MAX" value="45"/>
    <define name="PAN0" value="0"/>
    <define name="TILT_MIN" value="-90"/>
    <define name="TILT_NEUTRAL" value="0"/>
    <define name="TILT_MAX" value="90"/>
    <define name="TILT0" value="0"/>
    <define name="MODE0" value="1"/>
  </section>





Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2012 17:10:39 +0100
From: address@hidden
To: address@hidden
Subject: Re: [Paparazzi-devel] Lost in cam and motors

Here you go...
Thx a lot!

Am 28.11.2012 16:46, schrieb Eduardo lavratti:
send you airframe file so i can help.


From: address@hidden
To: address@hidden
Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2012 14:54:08 +0100
Subject: [Paparazzi-devel] Lost in cam and motors

Good day everybody,

let me introduce myself:
My name is Andrius Batalauskas and I am an Engineering student from Bremen (Germany).

My group is working with a quadrocopter consisting of:
- Liza/M 1.0
- XBee XBP 24
- Navilock NL-651EUSB u-blox 6
- Multiplex RX-5 (35MHz)
- JTAG
- Graupner mx-16s Remote

I have a couple of questions:

[Problem 1]

Currently we are trying to arm the copter motors in neutral position. Means: Throttle is down. And yaw pushed to MAX. Motors shall rotate at minimum speed now. But they do not.  Later the motors shall be disarmed when throttle is down again and yaw is MIN.

Motors are working fine with USE_THROTTLE_FOR_MOTOR_ARMING. It´s just the default arming behaviour that doesn´t work.

Part of airframe.xml:

<target name="ap" board="lisa_m_1.0">
      <subsystem name="radio_control" type="ppm"/>
      <define name="RADIO_KILL_SWITCH" value="RADIO_CAM"/>
      <define name="AUTOPILOT_DISABLE_AHRS_KILL"/>
      <!--define name="USE_THROTTLE_FOR_MOTOR_ARMING" value="1"/-->
      <!--define name="USE_KILL_SWITCH_FOR_MOTOR_ARMING" value="1"/-->
 </target>

Not sure if AUTOPILOT_DISABLE_AHRS_KILL is in the right place here. Doesn´t seem to change anything.

Part of airframe.xml:

<radio name="mx16sHSB" data_min="900" data_max="2100" sync_min ="5000" sync_max ="15000" pulse_type="POSITIVE">
 <channel ctl="A" function="THROTTLE" min="1120" neutral="1120" max="2000" average="0"/>
 <channel ctl="B" function="YAW"      min="2000" neutral="1498" max="1000" average="0"/>
 <channel ctl="C" function="PITCH"    min="2000" neutral="1498" max="1000" average="0"/>
 <channel ctl="D" function="ROLL"     min="2000" neutral="1498" max="1000" average="0"/>
</radio>

[Problem 2]

The copter will get a cam with a 1-axis servo which counters the copter pitch.
What is the basic procedure to make it work? We are kinda lost... There seems to be a camera module: cam.xml. So just include this one? Documentation http://paparazzi.enac.fr/wiki/Pan_Tilt_Camera says to add some xml code to our "Aircraft file to the right place". So what is the right place?

Any ideas are welcome!

Best regards,
Andrius

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