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Re: [Linphone-users] I have never seen Linphone actually work


From: Ken
Subject: Re: [Linphone-users] I have never seen Linphone actually work
Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2020 20:11:32 +0800

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On Fri, Jun 26, 2020 at 8:06 PM, Kate Draven <borgqueen4@gmail.com> wrote:
I really don't get what everyone is talking about. It's actually very simple. Perhaps it's a MS and Apple thing? I've been using linphone for years without problems. I have people with no computer experience setting it up in about 30 mins with some basic help. What OS/Distro is everyone running. I did see lots of problems with most ubuntus. Kate
---X6nD+Vt/xvjztDt/+204 Content-Type: text/plain; charsetiso-8859-1; formatflowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable It seems that one needs to be skilled at computer programming to use the Linphone interface successfully. That is my point here... I am not a code savvy person. I just need an interface that allows me to make phone calls. Once you start telling me that I have to troubleshoot the code to make it work then I am lost. This is definitely not a user-friendly application. Ken On Fri, Jun 26, 2020 at 7:50 PM, Ken <aloha@alphaomega.to> wrote: > > > On Fri, Jun 26, 2020 at 6:26 PM, Gerard Vanderveken <gerard@ghia.eu> > wrote: >> Hi Ken, >> >> It is a kind of Zip file. Use 7-zip or équivalent to extract the >> file. >> >> Rename the resulting file eventual with addition of .txt for more >> convience and/or open it with a text viewer/editor. >> >> >> Your file is perfect readable, but i'm not qualified enough to >> interpret the messages. >> > Neither am I...! >> Success, >> >> Gerard >> >> Ken schreef op 2020-06-26 12:10: >> >>> I tried a call and here is the log entry that I received. >>> https://www.linphone.org:444//tmp/5ef5c6eb0fdd3_74c9f6588f30603e9d37.gz >>> >>> I cannot open it so I'm not sure about what to do? >>> >>> Thanks, Ken >>> >>> On Fri, Jun 26, 2020 at 5:08 PM, Gerard Vanderveken >>> <gerard@ghia.eu> wrote: >>>> Hi Ken, >>>> >>>> Did you allready inspect the logs? >>>> >>>> menu - preferences - advanced - debugging - set to on >>>> >>>> menu - about - clear logs >>>> >>>> Do your tests for connecting >>>> >>>> menu - about - send logs (to yourself) >>>> >>>> Menu item texts are translated and may slightly differ. >>>> >>>> Greetz >>>> >>>> Gerard >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Ken schreef op 2020-06-26 10:29: >>>> >>>>> Hi Kate. >>>>> >>>>> Main Symptom: I cannot make outbound calls. I do not find the UI >>>>> to be very intuitive or helpful in directing the user in this >>>>> regard. There is no dial pad or audible feedback. I see something >>>>> that looks like the search bar for a web browser... Am I supposed >>>>> to enter the number that I want to call into this bar? I try that >>>>> and it appears to be trying to connect the call although there is >>>>> no dial tone or audible ringing, just some dots that spin in a >>>>> circle and then the call attempt appears to time out. I have to >>>>> assume all of this because there are no messages or feedback from >>>>> the UI that tells me what it is or isn't doing. I have no idea >>>>> of what is happening or why the call does not connect. That is >>>>> about all that I can tell you. >>>>> >>>>> I'm pretty sure that my SIP account registers when the program >>>>> starts but that is about all that I can tell you. >>>>> >>>>> Thanks, Ken >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, Jun 25, 2020 at 10:27 PM, Kate Draven >>>>> <borgqueen4@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> On Thursday 25 June 2020, Ken wrote: >>>>>>> I just installed the 4.2 beta "App Image" version of Linphone >>>>>>> on my Linux Mint Desktop with the hope that I might actually be >>>>>>> able to make calls with it from my personal, Xeloq, SIP >>>>>>> account. The account will register but I have never been able >>>>>>> to make a call. It is amusing to see all of the highly detailed >>>>>>> technical questions being posted here and I can sympathize with >>>>>>> the users because I have never been able to get the blinking >>>>>>> thing to work at all. >>>>>> >>>>>> ok strange because I use it all the time with no problems. Parts >>>>>> LFS and PCLOS with Trinity DE. What exactly are the symptoms? >>>>>> Thanks, Kate _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Linphone-users mailing list Linphone-users@nongnu.org >>>>>> https://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/linphone-users >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Linphone-users mailing list >>>>> Linphone-users@nongnu.org >>>>> https://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/linphone-users >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Linphone-users mailing list >>> Linphone-users@nongnu.org >>> https://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/linphone-users ---X6nD+Vt/xvjztDt/+204 Content-Type: text/html; charsetiso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <div id="geary-body" dir="auto">It seems that one needs to be skilled at
computer programming to use the Linphone interface successfully. &nbsp;That is my point here... I am not a code savvy person. I just need an interface that allows me to make phone calls. Once you start telling me that I have to troubleshoot the code to make it work then I am lost. &nbsp;This is definitely not a user-friendly application.<div><br></div><div>Ken</div></div><div id="geary-quote" dir="auto"><br>On Fri, Jun 26, 2020 at 7:50 PM, Ken &lt;aloha@alphaomega.to&gt; wrote:<br><blockquote type="cite"><div id="geary-body" dir="auto"><div><br></div></div><div id="geary-quote" dir="auto"><br>On Fri, Jun 26, 2020 at 6:26 PM, Gerard Vanderveken &lt;gerard@ghia.eu&gt; wrote:<br><blockquote type="cite"><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=UTF-8">
<p>Hi Ken,</p> <p>It is a kind of Zip file. Use 7-zip or équivalent to extract the
file.</p>
<p>Rename the resulting file eventual with addition of .txt for more
convience and/or open it with a text viewer/editor.</p>
<div id="signature">&nbsp;</div> <p>Your file is perfect readable, but i'm not qualified enough to interpret
the messages.</p></blockquote><b>Neither am I...!</b><br><blockquote type="cite">
<p>Success,</p> <p>Gerard</p> <p id="reply-intro">Ken schreef op 2020-06-26 12:10:</p> <blockquote type="cite" style="padding: 0 0.4em; border-left: #1010ff 2px
solid; margin: 0">
<div id="replybody1"> <div id="v1geary-body" dir="auto"> <div>I tried a call and here is the log entry that I received.</div> <div><span style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"><a
href=""https://www.linphone.org:444//tmp/5ef5c6eb0fdd3_74c9f6588f30603e9d37.gz">https://www.linphone.org:444//tmp/5ef5c6eb0fdd3_74c9f6588f30603e9d37.gz" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://www.linphone.org:444//tmp/5ef5c6eb0fdd3_74c9f6588f30603e9d37.gz</a></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: -webkit-standard;">&nbsp;</span></div> <div><span style="font-family: -webkit-standard;">I cannot open it so I'm
not sure about what to do?</span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: -webkit-standard;">&nbsp;</span></div> <div><span style="font-family: -webkit-standard;">Thanks, Ken</span></div> </div> <div id="v1geary-quote" dir="auto"><br>On Fri, Jun 26, 2020 at 5:08 PM,
Gerard Vanderveken &lt;gerard@ghia.eu&gt; wrote:<br>
<blockquote type="cite" style="padding: 0 0.4em; border-left: #1010ff 2px
solid; margin: 0">
<p>Hi Ken,</p> <p>Did you allready inspect the logs?</p> <p>menu - preferences - advanced - debugging - set to on</p> <p>menu - about - clear logs</p> <p>Do your tests for connecting</p> <p>menu - about - send logs (to yourself)</p> <p>Menu item texts are translated and may slightly differ.</p> <p>Greetz</p> <p>Gerard</p> <p><br></p> <p><br></p> <div id="v1signature">&nbsp;</div> <p><br></p> <p id="v1reply-intro">Ken schreef op 2020-06-26 10:29:</p> <blockquote style="padding: 0 0.4em; border-left: #1010ff 2px solid; margin:
0;">
<div id="v1replybody1"> <div id="v1v1geary-body" dir="auto"> <div>Hi Kate.</div> <div>&nbsp;</div> <div>Main Symptom: I cannot make outbound calls. &nbsp;I do not find the UI
to be very intuitive or helpful in directing the user in this regard. There is no dial pad or audible feedback. I see something that looks like the search bar for a web browser... Am I supposed to enter the number that I want to call into this bar? I try that and it appears to be trying to connect the call although there is no dial tone or audible ringing, just some dots that spin in a circle and then the call attempt appears to time out. &nbsp;I have to assume all of this because there are no messages or feedback from the UI that tells me what it is or isn't doing. &nbsp;I have no idea of what is happening or why the call does not connect. &nbsp;That is about all that I can tell you.</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div> <div>I'm pretty sure that my SIP account registers when the program starts
but that is about all that I can tell you.</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div> <div>Thanks, Ken</div> </div> <div id="v1v1geary-quote" dir="auto"><br>On Thu, Jun 25, 2020 at 10:27 PM,
Kate Draven &lt;borgqueen4@gmail.com&gt; wrote:<br>
<blockquote style="padding: 0 0.4em; border-left: #1010ff 2px solid; margin:
0;">
<div class="v1v1plaintext" style="white-space: pre-wrap;">On Thursday 25
June 2020, Ken wrote:
<blockquote style="padding: 0 0.4em; border-left: #1010ff 2px solid; margin:
0;">I just installed the 4.2 beta "App Image" version of Linphone on my Linux Mint Desktop with the hope that I might actually be able to make calls with it from my personal, Xeloq, SIP account. The account will register but I have never been able to make a call. It is amusing to see all of the highly detailed technical questions being posted here and I can sympathize with the users because I have never been able to get the blinking thing to work at all.</blockquote>
ok strange because I use it all the time with no problems. Parts LFS and
PCLOS with Trinity DE. What exactly are the symptoms? Thanks, Kate _______________________________________________ Linphone-users mailing list <a href=""mailto:Linphone-users@nongnu.org">mailto:Linphone-users@nongnu.org" rel="noreferrer">Linphone-users@nongnu.org</a> <a href=""https://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/linphone-users">https://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/linphone-users" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/linphone-users</a></div>
</blockquote> </div> </div> <br> <div class="v1pre" style="margin: 0; padding: 0; font-family:
monospace;">_______________________________________________<br>Linphone-users mailing list<br><a href=""mailto:Linphone-users@nongnu.org">mailto:Linphone-users@nongnu.org" rel="noreferrer">Linphone-users@nongnu.org</a><br><a href=""https://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/linphone-users">https://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/linphone-users" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/linphone-users</a></div>
</blockquote> </blockquote> </div> </div> <br> <div class="pre" style="margin: 0; padding: 0; font-family:
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