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Re: [Linphone-users] Re: My machine just rebooted!


From: Jason A. Pattie
Subject: Re: [Linphone-users] Re: My machine just rebooted!
Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 11:55:34 -0600
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Ged Haywood wrote:

Hi there,

On Thu, 20 Nov 2003 address@hidden wrote:
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  5.  My machine just rebooted! (Jason A. Pattie)
  6.  Rebooting (Jason A. Pattie)

Please keep the same subject line for the same thread!
How is one to know what it's about if you keep changing it?

Sorry. When I discovered the next "stuff", I went to my linphone-users folder, but my original mailing had not come in yet. So, I just created a new mail message. I suppose that I could have looked it up in my Sent folder.

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Message: 5
Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 13:51:16 -0600
From: "Jason A. Pattie" <address@hidden>
Subject: [Linphone-users] My machine just rebooted!
To: address@hidden
Message-ID: <address@hidden>
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Extraneous garbage left in for a reason - see below.

I've been having this problem lately, even when testing things under
Windows on the same machine.  I've noticed that it only happens when I
use my USB headset (Plantronics DSP 400).

USB support is still experimental under Linux.  What kernel version are
you using?  You should be using the latest version you possibly can,
try version 2.4.23-rc2 or even a 2.6.0-test version.  I've had (mixed)
success with 2.6.0-test5 but again see below.

Hmm. I was using 2.4.21. I'm going to attempt to run it on a much better machine than my laptop using 2.4.22. Does it matter if the kernel comes from Debian sources or www.kernel.org sources?

I can't get good audio quality from other SIP and IAX clients that
only support OSS devices.

AFAICT that's normal for OSS.  Use ALSA.  If the client doesn't support
it, get a different client.

Now with the latest version of linphone (0.12.1), I am able to finally
test using my USB headset.  However, the audio starts out good, then a
few seconds, or sometimes almost immediately, the audio starts getting
choppy and distorted and seems to repeat itself a lot, then it might
clear up for a second or two and then get bad again.

Is this with OSS? If so forget it and use ALSA.
No.  This is with ALSA chosen as the sound device for linphone.

The last time I tried it, something must have overloaded my laptop,
and it rebooted.  This has happened before with other software phone
clients using the same headset (under Windows, too).  I don't know if
this is a problem to do with ALSA sound drivers for my device, or what.

This is likely to be a USB problem.  I have had many problems like that

I'm thinking the same as well.

with loading, using and (especially) unloading USB modules.  It was worst
with kernels in the 2.4.18 to 2.4.20 era, better in 2.6.0-test5 but then
seems to have deteriorated in later 2.6.0-test kernels.  It may be better
in 2.4.23-rc2 but basically I've given up with USB under Linux until they
get it sorted out.  It seems like the USB developers don't read the users'
mail very much so I'm not holding my breath.

- --
Jason A. Pattie
address@hidden
Xperience, Inc. (http://www.xperienceinc.com)
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All this extraneous crap makes it *really* difficult for those of us who
get thousands of mail messages per day and have to subscribe to the digest
versions of the mailing lists and a good spam filter (like SpamAssassin:).

Later message.  It took 63 lines in the Digest (not all your fault:) to say:

I found out something more.  It always happens when I go to "hangup"

Sounds to me like you are using USB hotplugging.  Don't do that unless you
can be reasonably confident that Linux won't crash when you load or unload
any of your USB modules.
Don't know. It's an install of Debian Woody "upgraded" to a mixture of testing/unstable. I don't remember seeing anything about USB hotplug, but it's probably in there somewhere.


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