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Re: [Linphone-developers] Fw: Re: bzrtp support for AES with 256-bit key


From: Test Sv
Subject: Re: [Linphone-developers] Fw: Re: bzrtp support for AES with 256-bit keys
Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2015 06:27:06 -0800

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On Fri, 1/23/15, Guillaume BIENKOWSKI <address@hidden> wrote:

 Subject: Re: [Linphone-developers] Fw: Re: bzrtp support for AES with  256-bit 
keys
 To: "address@hidden" <address@hidden>
 Date: Friday, January 23, 2015, 9:20 AM
 
 Hello Test
 SV,
 From Gmail's point
 of view, all your messages are marked as spam, this is the
 error messages that pops up when I look at your messages
 from my spam folder:
 Why
 is this message in Spam? It
 has a from address in yahoo.com but
 has failed yahoo.com's required tests
 for authentication.  Learn
 more
 
 (link is https://support.google.com/mail/answer/1366858?hl=en&expand=5
 )
 Maybe that's the
 reason.
 
 Guillaume
 BIENKOWSKIhttp://www.belledonne-communications.com/
 sip:address@hidden
 
 
 On
 Fri, Jan 23, 2015 at 3:07 PM, Test Sv <address@hidden>
 wrote:
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 I am sending this email again after I received a very
 strange message from linphone in response to the email that
 my membership has been disabled due to excessive bounces
 which I am very clean what it means?!.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 --- On Fri, 1/23/15, Test Sv <address@hidden>
 wrote:
 
 
 
 > From: Test Sv <address@hidden>
 
 > Subject: Re: [Linphone-developers] bzrtp support for
 AES with 256-bit keys
 
 > To: address@hidden
 
 > Date: Friday, January 23, 2015, 8:00 AM
 
 >
 
 >
 
 >
 
 >
 
 >
 
 > Hello;
 
 >
 
 > Nice
 
 > job by the developers team at Simlar. It is an
 important new
 
 > capability to linphone that many users needed and would
 like
 
 > to use.
 
 >
 
 > In general, aes-256
 
 > is highly recommended as by far the best encryption
 method
 
 > currently available.  Although, there are well
 known
 
 > serious vulnerabilities in some of the implementations
 for
 
 > aes-256 which undermind the algorithm. Few years ago,
 at
 
 > least one serious vulnerability was identified in zrtp,
 and
 
 > was corrcted later by most of people.
 
 >
 
 > Therefore, aes-256 should be the default
 
 > encryption on linphone that is automatically available
 to
 
 > the user out of the box after installation (i.e.
 without
 
 > having to go to the settings menu). Users who are
 interested
 
 > in down grading to the aes-128, they can go to the
 settings
 
 > menu to do so. Those users should know that most of
 people
 
 > can crack aes-128 without any difficulty.
 
 >
 
 > To the best of my knowledge,
 
 > linphone and bzrtp never been subjected to an
 indepedent and
 
 > complete security audit. There are several
 organizations in
 
 > Russia and Europe that provide such a highly
 specialized
 
 > audit.
 
 >
 
 > Keep up the good
 
 > work Simlar.
 
 >
 
 > Cheers;
 
 >
 
 >
 
 >
 
 >
 
 >
 
 >
 
 > --------------------------------------------
 
 > On Fri, 1/23/15, Johan Pascal <address@hidden>
 
 > wrote:
 
 >
 
 >  Subject: Re:
 
 > [Linphone-developers] bzrtp support for AES with
 256-bit
 
 > keys
 
 >  To: address@hidden
 
 >  Date: Friday, January 23, 2015, 6:15 AM
 
 >
 
 >  Hi Ben,
 
 >  and
 
 > thanks for the patch.
 
 >
 
 >  I
 
 > had a quick look at it, very nice rework on
 
 >
 
 > the tests cases!
 
 >
 
 >  Few
 
 >  remarks:
 
 >  - I think we should
 
 > stick to AES128
 
 >  being the default (switch
 
 > in
 
 >  bzrtpCrypto_getAvailableCryptoTypes).
 
 > The user
 
 >  will set it to AES256 if
 
 >  needed.
 
 >
 
 >  -
 
 > You may want to export also
 
 >  the algorithm
 
 > defines and not only the
 
 >  types in bzrtp.h
 
 > (commit 4) otherwise the user
 
 >  won't be
 
 > able to safely
 
 >  use the get/set
 
 >  functions.
 
 >
 
 >
 
 > - We shall
 
 >  ensure that mandatory algorithms
 
 > are always present in the
 
 >
 
 >
 
 > context supported list, by either checking
 
 >
 
 > their presence in the input
 
 >
 
 > supportedTypes
 
 >  of
 
 > bzrtp_setSupportedCryptoTypes and queing them at the
 
 >  end if they are missing or tweaking the
 
 >  selectCommonAlgo to add them if
 
 >  they are
 
 >  missing.(first one
 
 > seems cleaner)
 
 >
 
 >  - Same
 
 > kind of problem (which was already there
 
 >
 
 > before your patches)
 
 >  with the incoming
 
 >  HelloPacket parsing: we shall ensure that if
 
 > the
 
 >  packet doesn't contain a mandatory
 
 > algo, it
 
 >  is added at the end of the
 
 >  list as
 
 >  specified in the RFC
 
 > section 5.2:
 
 >  "If a
 
 >
 
 > mandatory algorithm is not included in the list, it
 
 >      is implicitly added to the end of the
 
 >  list for preference."
 
 >
 
 > Which means the
 
 >  in function
 
 > bzrtp_packetParser, all the tests on
 
 >
 
 > messageData->xx == 0 to set the mandatory
 
 >  algo shall be replaced by
 
 >
 
 > something
 
 >  checking the presence of the
 
 > mandatory algo in the
 
 >  messageData->xx
 
 > field after parsing it from
 
 >  the packet.
 
 >
 
 >  - min function
 
 >  seems fine to me as it is.
 
 >
 
 >
 
 >  I'll have to rework the mediastream
 
 > patch
 
 >  as I've done some
 
 >  modifications in
 
 >  zrtp.c,
 
 > they're in branch dev_dtls for now but will be
 
 >
 
 >  merge to master soon.
 
 >
 
 >  regards,
 
 >
 
 >
 
 >  johan
 
 >
 
 >
 
 >
 
 >
 
 >  On 23/01/15 03:58, Ben
 
 > Sartor
 
 >  wrote:
 
 >  > Hi
 
 > Johan,
 
 >  >
 
 >  > thanks
 
 > for you
 
 >  answer. I have tried to implement
 
 > things like you
 
 >  suggested.
 
 >
 
 > >
 
 >  > Patches
 
 >  0001 and
 
 > 0002 are unchanged.
 
 >  >
 
 >
 
 > > Patches 0003 to 0005 add the the getter
 
 >  and setter you suggested.
 
 >
 
 > >
 
 >  > Patches 0006 to 0009 implement
 
 > the tests.
 
 >  I completely refactored the
 
 > function
 
 >  >
 
 >
 
 > "test_algoAgreement". Is it ok for you to
 write
 
 >  tests this way?
 
 >  >
 
 >  >
 
 >  Patches 0010 to 0012 are
 
 > some code cleanup suggestions and
 
 >  were not
 
 > discussed
 
 >  > before. Let me know
 
 >  what you think.
 
 >  > Is there
 
 > a better place
 
 >  for the min-function? Maybe
 
 > even a macro like
 
 >  > discussed here [1]?
 
 > Is
 
 >  "__typeof__" ok?
 
 >  >
 
 >  > [1] http://stackoverflow.com/questions/3437404/min-and-max-in-c
 
 >  >
 
 >  > The
 
 > mediastreamer2
 
 >  patch of my initial post
 
 > still applies and may be used
 
 >  for
 
 >  > testing.
 
 >  >
 
 >  > Kind Regards,
 
 >
 
 > >   Ben
 
 >  >
 
 >
 
 > >> Hi Ben,
 
 >  >>
 
 >
 
 > >>> Yes. Just to be sure, did you mean
 
 >  implementing functions like this:
 
 >  >>>
 
 >  >>>
 
 > void
 
 >
 
 > bzrtp_setSupportedCipherTypes(bzrtpContext_t
 
 > *zrtpContext,
 
 >  uint8_t
 
 >
 
 > >>> availableTypes[7],
 
 >  const
 
 > uint8_t availableTypesCount);
 
 >
 
 > >>>
 
 >  >>>
 
 >
 
 > uint8_t bzrtp_getSupportedCipherTypes(bzrtpContext_t
 
 >  *zrtpContext, uint8_t
 
 >
 
 > >>>
 
 >  availableTypes[7]);
 
 >  >>
 
 >  >> Yes but you
 
 > want to add an uint8_t
 
 >  algoType
 
 > argument(just like
 
 >  >>
 
 >  bzrtpCrypto_getAvailableCryptoTypes function)
 
 > to both of
 
 >  them in order
 
 >
 
 > >> to use the same
 
 >  function to
 
 > get/set the available algos for block
 
 >
 
 > >> cipher/key exchange/SAS
 
 >
 
 > rendering/Hash.
 
 >  >>
 
 >
 
 > >>>> This means we also must add a
 
 >  way to store the user configuration in
 
 >  >>>> linphone. I was thinking
 
 > the
 
 >  easiest way would be to store it in
 
 > the
 
 >  >>>> config file and access
 
 > it only
 
 >  manually for now. I can implement
 
 > this if
 
 >  >>>> you're lost on
 
 > the way
 
 >  linphone manage the config file.
 
 >  >>>
 
 >  >>>
 
 > I
 
 >  haven't had a look to  linphone
 
 > config file management,
 
 >  yet. Let's
 
 > see
 
 >  >>> how far I
 
 >
 
 > get or if you find time first.
 
 >  >>
 
 >  >> It's quite simple, but if you
 
 >  struggle tell me and I'll have a look
 
 > at
 
 >  >> it when you're done with
 
 > bzrtp. We
 
 >  can use an already existing
 
 > config
 
 >  >>
 
 >  setting
 
 > used to select SRTP protection profile(see misc.c
 
 >  const
 
 >  >> MSCryptoSuite
 
 > *
 
 >
 
 > linphone_core_get_srtp_crypto_suites(LinphoneCore
 *lc);)
 
 >  >> for the block cipher algo
 
 > selection
 
 >  and do something for the other
 
 > algo
 
 >  >>
 
 >  types when
 
 > needed.
 
 >  >>
 
 >
 
 > >>>> Last, this must be covered by
 
 >  automatic tests.(Key exchange between two
 
 >  >>>> users using different set
 
 > of
 
 >  cipher block algo)
 
 >
 
 > >>>
 
 >  >>> I'm not sure
 
 > what you mean:
 
 >  Would you prefer a test
 
 > similar to the
 
 >  >>> existing
 
 >  >>> "test_algoAgreement"
 
 > or
 
 >  would it be better to write a test for
 
 > the
 
 >  >>> function
 
 >
 
 > >>> "selectCommonAlgo"
 
 >
 
 > directly?
 
 >  >>
 
 >
 
 > >>
 
 >  I was thinking of extending the
 
 > test_algoAgreement to
 
 >  include block
 
 >  >> cipher selection and
 
 >
 
 > some test on linphone call to check correct reading
 
 >  >> of the configuration from file, but
 
 > it
 
 >  can't harm to have a test for the
 
 >  >> selectCommonAlgo too.
 
 >  >>
 
 >  >> Thanks
 
 > for
 
 >  your contribution.
 
 >
 
 > >>
 
 >  >> Have a good day
 
 >  >>
 
 >  >> johan
 
 >  >>
 
 >  >>
 
 >
 
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