Re: Two small issues

[Peter Mayes]

Thanks for the response.

The \turn placement is exactly what I needed.

I may not have been clear enough on the second question. The four movements are engraved in four separate \score blocks. The change of key signature is the very last thing at the end of the first movement. There are no more notes to come.

I have since learned about silent notes, and I get almost what I want if I add a silent note after the advisory key change. But then the bar lengths are altered. To put the two result together:

Ideally what I want is the first version, but with the stave extending just enough to go through the key signature.

Apologies that these are beginners' questions. Help from the experts is much appreciated!

Best wishes -- Peter
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On 01/11/2023 15:59, Knute Snortum wrote:

1) Use \after.  See https://lilypond.org/doc/v2.24/Documentation/notation/expressive-marks-attached-to-notes, and scroll down to Delayed Turns.  I also used a tweak to move the turn up.

2) Just add notes after the key change and it should display correctly

\version "2.24.2"

\relative c'' {
  \key c \minor
  \cadenzaOn r32^\markup { \italic "molto rit"}\f
  c,_\markup {\italic "con forza"}[( ees aes] c[ ees aes  bes]
  \after 16.*2/3 \tweak Script.staff-padding 3 \turn % <-- new stuff here
  c16.[ d32] ees16)[ \set breathMarkType = #'tickmark
  \breathe fis,]^-^\markup { \italic "ad lib"}\p g4^-_\markup { \italic "sub." }
  r4_\markup { \italic "attaca"} \cadenzaOff\bar "||"
  \key c \major |
  c4 c c c
}

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Knute Snortum

On Wed, Nov 1, 2023 at 5:26 AM Peter Mayes <peter@petermayes.org> wrote:

I have two beginner questions about the following fragment - the end of the first movement of Cimarosa's oboe concerto - which I am trying to reproduce from the printed score, partly for learning Lilypond, and partly so I can print it enlarged on A3 paper.

My coding:

  \cadenzaOn r32^\markup { \italic "molto rit"}\f c,_\markup {\italic "con forza"}[( ees aes] c[ ees aes  bes] c16.\turn
[ d32] ees16)[ \set breathMarkType = #'tickmark \breathe fis,]^-^\markup { \italic "ad lib"}\p g4^-_\markup { \italic
"sub."} r4_\markup { \italic "attaca"} \cadenzaOff\bar "||"
  \key c \major |

The result:

1. How to move the turn so that it is in between the dotted C and D?

2. Where the three naturals show that the next movement has moved from C minor to C major, how to get the stave to continue just long enough so that the key signature is not floating in mid-air?

Thanks in advance

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Best wishes -- Peter

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