RE: Putting finger substitution in the LilyPond manual

[Mark Stephen Mrotek]

Knute,

Some instructions are here
https://lilypond.org/doc/v2.22/Documentation/notation/inside-the-staff#fingering-instructions
although it refers mainly to stringed instrument.

Mark

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On Behalf Of Knute Snortum
Sent: Sunday, October 24, 2021 7:36 AM
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Subject: Putting finger substitution in the LilyPond manual

In this thread (1) we discussed how to notate the piano technique of holding 
down one note and changing fingers without releasing the note.
Wikipedia calls this "substitution." (2)  I would like to put a section in the 
manual that explains how to notate this.  It seems to be a fairly common thing 
in piano music and yet there's no mention of it that I can find.

I think a quick explanation could go in the Fingering section (3) or the 
Keyboard Snippets section (4).  Wikipedia states that this technique is used by 
violin players too but I don't know if it is notated the same way or not.  The 
text would be something like:

*** begin manual text

Sometimes the keyboardist will want to hold down a key with one finger then 
change fingers without lifting the key up.  This is called substitution and it 
can be notated several ways.

With a dash between the numbers:

[snippet showing a dash between fingering numbers]

With a tie over or under the numbers:

[snippet showing the \undertie and \overtie techniques]

*** end manual text

Any thoughts on this?

1. https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2021-10/msg00290.html
2. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Finger_substitution
3. 
https://lilypond.org/doc/v2.22/Documentation/learning/within_002dstaff-objects#fingering
4. https://lilypond.org/doc/v2.22/Documentation/snippets/keyboards
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Knute Snortum