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Re: [OT] Identification of a bagpipe embellishment?


From: Guo Brian
Subject: Re: [OT] Identification of a bagpipe embellishment?
Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2020 19:15:30 +0000


Hello all,

Thanks for the info, but I know that I could just \include “bagpipe.ly” and use the command defined there \pgrace{g32[ f d]}; I was wondering if there was a conventional name for the embellishment (even if it is not defined in bagpipe.ly), for example, gracenotes HighGDE (followed by the main note D) is a doubling on D, gracenotes LowGDC is a throw on D, GDG is a grip/leumluath, GDGE is a taorluath, and so on.

Kind regards,
Brian Guo

Slava Novieji Vieti Dielienieji

发件人: lilypond-user <lilypond-user-bounces+brian777guo=address@hidden> 代表 J Martin Rushton via LilyPond user discussion <address@hidden>
发送时间: Wednesday, February 12, 2020 3:51:29 AM
收件人: address@hidden <address@hidden>
主题: Re: [OT] Identification of a bagpipe embellishment?
 
I hesitated in replying since I started to learn the Highland Pipes a
__long__ time ago, and never really stuck with them.  In "Logans
Complete Tutor for the Highland Bagpipe"* from page X onwards they are
consistently referred to as gracenotes.  They can be single or up to
five gracenotes (though I counted up to 7 in some exercises).  They are
essential between repeated notes or where there are awkward fingering
changes because the bagpipe cannot be tongued as for other wind instruments.

HTH,
Martin

*My version is undated, revised by Captain John MacLellan of the Army
School of Piping

On 11/02/2020 14:11, Mark Stephen Mrotek wrote:
> Brian,
>
> Not being a piper I am not sure of nomenclature, yet Lilypond has the
> command “\grace”.
>
> Your example would be notated
>
> \version "2.19.84"
>
> \relative c'' {
>
>    \grace {g'32 f d} g4
>
> }
>
> Mark
>
> *From:*lilypond-user
> [mailto:lilypond-user-bounces+carsonmark=address@hidden] *On Behalf
> Of *Guo Brian
> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 11, 2020 2:48 AM
> *To:* address@hidden
> *Subject:* [OT] Identification of a bagpipe embellishment?
>
> Hello all,
>
> I am certain that the LilyPond community has a number of bagpipe
> players, and I hope that I do not bother you with the following problem
> that I have come across:
>
> I am transcribing a bagpipe piece written in Bb major into
> “conventional” notation (where the scale is based on A), and come across
> the following embellishment:
>
> In conventional notation it would be written as:
>
> In case Mailman refuses to send the images, the embellishment consists
> of what appears to be the beginning of a F doubling (written as the
> grace notes High G and F), then a strike to D, then the main note
> becomes a High G. Putting aside the possibility of the fingering, the
> sequence is gfdG, where lowercase letters are grace notes and the
> uppercase letter is the main note.
>
> However, I am having trouble finding the name of the embellishment. I
> have tried searching it by the notes, but without luck.
>
> The embellishment in question is from the transcription of an
> avant-garde piece: /The Most Unwanted Music/ by Dave Soldier. In the
> score, the transcriber makes a note that “[t]he score cannot reflect
> accurately all the music, and the performers should also
>
> listen to the CD”, so it is also possible that this embellishment is
> actually the result of a transcription error.
>
> I am by no means a professional bagpipe player, so any advice would be
> much appreciated.
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Brian Guo
>

--
J Martin Rushton MBCS


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