Re: Removing lyric hyphens

[Vaughan McAlley]

On Thu, 25 Jul 2019 at 09:29, Benjamin Bloomfield <address@hidden> wrote:

No, I should have explained that I have further things going on in my full source code that remove the semibreves unless they are the first one or the first in the system, and the hyphenations are given so that a reasonable point can be chosen for the system breaks even if it's in the middle of a word.  I have everything working nicely except for the slight bit of extra space between syllables.

Sorry I forgot to mention why I have the hyphenation points marked, because you're right, the solution you give is the obvious one if I didn't need those hyphenation points for the possible line breaks.

Thanks,

Benjamin Bloomfield

On Wed, Jul 24, 2019 at 6:02 PM Brian Barker <address@hidden> wrote:

At 15:54 24/07/2019 -0400, you wrote:
>I've been trying to totally get rid of the space
>where a lyric hyphen might go, in cases where
>that space is already very small, but I have not
>been able to figure it out. Is there a way to
>get rid of these spaces instead of having them
>still present as empty space?  I want the
>syllables to be as close to each other as if they were a single syllable.

If you don't want the space, don't put it in! If
you want "Holy", enter "Holy", not "Ho -- ly". If
you then want that word to fit one note, use "Holy_". Thus:
Draw near, Lord, Holy_ Father,_ almighty__ and e -- ter -- nal God,
with
a'8 c1 c c c c c c \divisioMinima b8 a b \divisioMaior

But isn't the way such music is usually set with
a single semibreve for all the syllables that are chanted to it?
Draw "near, Lord, Holy Father, almighty and e" -- ter -- nal God,
a'8 c1 \divisioMinima b8 a b \divisioMaior

Now all you probably have to do is to move the
semibreve back to over the word "near," ...

I trust this helps.

Brian Barker - privately

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It looks like all those semibreves, even if they are changed to a short length, want to take up room because they are a big symbol. If you remove all overrides to lyric hyphens, the syllables come together unless they are smaller than the breve symbol. Changing the X-extent of noteheads makes all the widths dependent on the syllables, but introduces further issues:

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\version "2.19.81"

\include "gregorian.ly"

  antiphonText = \lyricmode {
    Draw near, Lord, Ho -- ly Fa -- ther,
al -- might -- y and e -- ter -- nal God,
au -- thor of hu -- man dig -- ni -- ty and be -- stow -- er of all grac -- es,
through whom all things pro -- gress,
through whom eve -- ry -- thing is made firm,
who, by the pow -- er of the Ho -- ly Spir -- it,
in or -- der to form a priest -- ly peo -- ple,
es -- tab -- lish a -- mong them min -- is -- ters of Christ your Son in var -- i -- ous or -- ders.

  }


  aSop = \transpose c c {
    %\revert LyricHyphen.minimum-distance
    \relative c' {
      \cadenzaOn
a'8 \bar"" c\breve*1/1024 \bar"" c \bar"" c \bar"" c \bar"" c \bar"" c \bar"" \divisioMinima
c\breve*1/1024 \bar"" c \bar"" c \bar"" c \bar"" c \bar"" b8 \bar"" a \bar"" b \bar"" \divisioMaior
a8 \bar"" c\breve*1/1024 \bar"" c \bar"" c \bar"" c \bar"" c \bar"" c \bar"" c \bar"" c \bar"" c \bar"" c \bar"" c \bar"" b8 \bar"" a \bar"" b \bar"" b \bar"" \divisioMaior
a8 \bar"" c\breve*1/1024 \bar"" c \bar"" c \bar"" c \bar"" c \bar"" \divisioMinima
c\breve*1/1024 \bar"" c \bar"" c \bar"" c \bar"" c \bar"" b8 \bar"" a \bar"" b \bar"" \divisioMaior
a8 \bar"" c\breve*1/1024 \bar"" c \bar"" c \bar"" c \bar"" c \bar"" c \bar"" b8 \bar"" a \bar"" b \bar"" b \bar"" \divisioMaior
b\breve*1/1024 \bar"" b \bar"" b \bar"" b \bar"" b \bar"" b \bar"" a8 \bar"" b \bar"" c \bar"" b \bar"" \divisioMinima \break
b\breve*1/1024 \bar"" b \bar"" b \bar"" b \bar"" b \bar"" b \bar"" b \bar"" b \bar"" b \bar"" b \bar"" b \bar"" b \bar"" b \bar"" b \bar"" g8 \bar"" a \bar"" b \bar"" a \bar"" a \bar"" \divisioMaxima
      \cadenzaOff
    }
  }


\score {
  <<
    \new Staff
    <<
      \clef "treble"
      \new Voice = "sop" { \voiceOne \aSop }
    >>
    \new Lyrics \lyricsto sop \antiphonText
  >>
  \layout {
    \context { \Voice
     \override NoteHead.X-extent = #'(0 . 0)
    }
    \context { \Lyrics
      \override LyricText #'font-family = #'normal
   %   \override LyricHyphen #'minimum-distance = #1.0
%      \override LyricHyphen #'minimum-length = #0.3



     %\override LyricHyphen #'minimum-length = #1.5
     %\override LyricHyphen #'padding = #0
    }
  }
}

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Vaughan