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Re: Slurs do not work with Larsen articulations
From: |
Thomas Morley |
Subject: |
Re: Slurs do not work with Larsen articulations |
Date: |
Wed, 25 Apr 2018 21:46:04 +0200 |
Hi Carl,
2018-04-25 13:26 GMT+02:00 Carl Sorensen <address@hidden>:
> Evan,
>
> Thanks for your feedback. Feedback from new users is important for improving
> the Learning Manual.
Indeed.
> There is a point that I was trying to make with these changes, without
> jumping right out and saying it (because I couldn’t find a good place to jump
> out and say it). In LilyPond, *ALL* extra things that apply to a note are
> added *after* a note, not before.
To be complete.
There's one exception I'm aware of: ligatures:
\[ g' c, a' f d' \]
> And they are *not* added after a "note pitch". A note consists of a pitch
> plus a duration. For a given note, either the pitch or the duration can be
> implicit, which means they are not included in the input but instead get
> their value from the previous note. Following the note, we get all the
> modifiers.
>
> This pattern needs to be understood to be successful in working with
> LilyPond. Once you understand this, it's clear that you can't use the ABC
> notation of enclosing a series of notes in parentheses.
Reading this thread I looked for a LM section explaining this
postfix-syntax and couldn't find any, did I overlook something?
If not, think it should be inserted in section
LM
3. Fundamental concepts
3.1 How LilyPond input files work
My proposal:
%%%%%%%% proposal-start
LM 3.1.4 Attaching other elements to a note - postfix-syntax
Writing a note means to enter a pitch with a duration (which may be implicit).
Ofcourse several other elements may belong to this note, like fingerings,
articulations, slurs, ties, text etc.
All those elements are _attached_ to the note. An example in pseudo-code:
Note-of-pitch-c'-and-duration-8
with fingering 1
with articulation tenuto
with starting slur
with starting tie
with text 'what-ever-remark'
Attaching elements in this mannor is called postfix-syntax.
The above pseudo-code-example would be done in LilyPond-syntax as
{
c'8-1---(-~-\markup "what-ever-remark"
%% end Slur
c'-)
}
The "-"-sign inserts the elements into the list of elements attached to this
note.
Ofcourse all those "-"-signs are probably hard to read, so for convenience most
of them can be omitted. Above can be rewritten as:
{
c'8-1--(~\markup "what-ever-remark" c')
}
LM 3.1.5 On the un-nestedness of brackets and ties
%%%%%%%% proposal-end
Ofcourse this only a sketch.
Probably links to further explanations should be added. etc
Cheers,
Harm
- Re: Slurs do not work with Larsen articulations, (continued)
- Re: Slurs do not work with Larsen articulations, Karlin High, 2018/04/25
- Re: Slurs do not work with Larsen articulations, Carl Sorensen, 2018/04/25
- Re[2]: Slurs do not work with Larsen articulations, Trevor, 2018/04/25
- Re: Slurs do not work with Larsen articulations, Evan Driscoll, 2018/04/25
- Re: Slurs do not work with Larsen articulations, Carl Sorensen, 2018/04/25
- Re: Slurs do not work with Larsen articulations, Thomas Morley, 2018/04/25
- Re: Slurs do not work with Larsen articulations, David Kastrup, 2018/04/25
- Re: Slurs do not work with Larsen articulations, Carl Sorensen, 2018/04/25
- Re: Slurs do not work with Larsen articulations, Thomas Morley, 2018/04/25
- Re: Slurs do not work with Larsen articulations, David Kastrup, 2018/04/26
- Re: Slurs do not work with Larsen articulations,
Thomas Morley <=
- Re: Slurs do not work with Larsen articulations, David Kastrup, 2018/04/25
- Re: Slurs do not work with Larsen articulations, Carl Sorensen, 2018/04/25
- Re: Slurs do not work with Larsen articulations, David Kastrup, 2018/04/25
- Re: Slurs do not work with Larsen articulations, Noeck, 2018/04/25
- Re: Slurs do not work with Larsen articulations, Simon Albrecht, 2018/04/25
- Re: Slurs do not work with Larsen articulations, David Kastrup, 2018/04/26
Re: Slurs do not work with Larsen articulations, David Kastrup, 2018/04/24