Re: MultiMeasureRest symbol spacing

[Jan-Peter Voigt]

Hi David,

happy new year!
I do understand the concerns about this matter. Most instrumental parts 
shouldn't have this problem, as the measures will be spaced well. And in 
most cases spreaded church rests probably indicate bad spacing or 
line-breaking.

But still - in my opinion - an option to set a maximum distance would 
serve for cases I am facing right now, where long church rests are 
followed by one measure of cues which indicate the end of a recitative 
and display the last notes and words. You will not find such cues very 
often, but whenever I prepare parts like that I receive thanks from the 
musicians. In the attached image your patch prevents spreading the 
6-measure-rest. Perhaps an optional maximum would be acceptable.

Best
Jan-Peter




Am 02.01.2017 um 20:19 schrieb David Nalesnik:
> On Sat, Dec 31, 2016 at 12:46 PM, David Nalesnik
> <address@hidden> wrote:
> > On Sat, Dec 31, 2016 at 11:27 AM, David Nalesnik
> > <address@hidden> wrote:
> > > On Sat, Dec 31, 2016 at 11:20 AM, David Nalesnik
> > > <address@hidden> wrote:
> > > > Hmmm....
> > > >
> > > > I'm having misgivings about the idea of fixed space between symbols.
> > > >
> > > > Looking at several Breitkopf & Härtel parts, I see rests spaced to
> > > > fill available space.  Though, because spacing is compact, we never
> > > > see the awful behavior Jan-Peter's example reveals.
> > > >
> > > > http://imslp.org/wiki/Symphony_No.2,_Op.73_(Brahms,_Johannes)#Parts
> > > > http://imslp.org/wiki/Symphony_No.1,_Op.21_(Beethoven,_Ludwig_van)#Parts
> > > >
> > > > Instead of having fixed spacing between symbols, would it be better to
> > > > have a limit on how much a rest can be stretched?  This would be
> > > > expressed in staff-spaces (like the current minimum which is
> > > > hard-coded as 1 staff-space).
>
>
> The patch has been put on a second countdown period.  I'm considering
> that LilyPond's behavior is in fact correct, and that the overly
> spread symbols is simply an issue with spacing that is too loose -- in
> short, an issue that rests with the user.
>
> If it's desired, I could retool the patch to enforce a maximum;
> however, it may be best to withdraw the patch entirely.
>
> Does someone who sees a lot of parts have an opinion?  The examples
> I've seen have very economical spacing, and rests are allowed to
> spread to fill the allotted space.
>
> Best,
> David

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