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Re: Combining voices in American Hymns
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J Martin Rushton |
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Re: Combining voices in American Hymns |
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Tue, 13 Sep 2016 23:37:08 +0100 |
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On 13/09/16 22:32, David Wright wrote:
> On Tue 13 Sep 2016 at 21:56:04 (+0100), J Martin Rushton wrote:
>> On 12/09/16 19:21, Karlin High wrote:
>>> On 9/7/2016 11:56 PM, David F. wrote:
>>>> Is there a way to combine two voices and print both stems (up and down)
>>>> when the voices share a note? \partcombine does not appear to do this by
>>>> default.
>>>>
>>>> American SATB hymns are typically engraved with the soprano and alto
>>>> voices combined and the tenor and bass voices combined. If a note in the
>>>> soprano voice has the same duration as the note in the alto voice, then
>>>> the notes for soprano and alto will share a stem. If the durations are
>>>> different, then there is no sharing. And if the notes are the same
>>>> duration and the same pitch, then the note with have both an up stem and a
>>>> down stem.
>>>
>>> You're not alone with difficulties on American-style part combining.
>>> Another LilyPond user shared some of her work with me, and I'm still
>>> studying the approach she uses. Below is a small example I'm using for
>>> experiments. I'm not very familiar with the inner workings of LilyPond;
>>> maybe someone will take one look and say, "That will mostly work, but
>>> you will run into problems with such-and-such situations."
>>> --
>>> Karlin High
>>> Missouri, USA
>> <snip>
>>
>> How is this "American-style"? It sounds just the same as hymnbooks on
>> this side of the pond have done since (at least) the 19thC. I tried to
>> enclose a scan of "Hymns Ancient & Modern" (the standard Anglican
>> hymnbook) of 1868 but it was rejected as too large [sorry moderator].
>> Briefly: SA in the treble clef, TB in the bass, note heads combined
>> where appropriate with the stems indicating which voice they apply to.
>> Is this not what you were describing?
>
> Three examples attached. The words in the English style will be
> printed below. (This post is an oversimplification.)
>
> Cheers,
> David.
>
OK, thanks. Atlantic & English are common in hymnbooks here - the old
(1923?) Methodist hymnbook used both styles. I can now see the American
is different. Slightly OT: how does the American system differentiate
when the voices cross? For example between E for Alto + G for Soprano
compared to E for S + G for A.
Regards,
Martin
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- New \partcombine in 2.19 Was: Re: Combining voices in American Hymns, (continued)
Re: Combining voices in American Hymns, Karlin High, 2016/09/12
Solved Re: Combining voices in American Hymns, David F., 2016/09/13
Re: Combining voices in American Hymns, J Martin Rushton, 2016/09/13
Re: Combining voices in American Hymns,
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