Re: Position fingerings for diatonic accordion that include button name (not just finger)

[Mojca Miklavec]

On 9 July 2016 at 13:25, David Kastrup wrote:
> Mojca Miklavec writes:
>
>> I'm relatively new to lilypond (and new to diatonic accordion).
>
> Slovenia is a nice area to be in for diatonic accordion, though.
>
>> I would eventually like to add more automation to write scores for
>> accordion, but I need to start somewhere where I can at least get the
>> desired output.
>
> The automation currently available for diatonic accordion sucks (not
> even sucks and blows).

:)

> There is a quasi-ancient example in the manual at
> <URL:http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.18/Documentation/snippets/templates#templates-score-for-diatonic-accordion>.

Thank you. This is a super complex example that I'm unable to
interpret (I would have no idea how to play it before studying it for
a while), but it might become clearer what I want to achieve with the
attachment. I hope that the attached PNG will be OK now. (I never put
images inline and initially wanted to provide an URL to some scores,
but the image on the URL might disappear and the notes for beginners
suggested to add an image next to the minimal example.)

>> Here's an example[1] of the type of scores I would want to typeset (except
>> that these only mention the button name without the finger number):
>
> Your example is not present in the plain text rendition of the mail,
> consequently few people on the list will see it.  Try doing a proper
> Mime attachment, preferably as an in-line part.

I'm really sorry, see above. I'm attaching it now. I'm not sure what
an "in-line part" means though.

> In general, avoid HTML
> mails to the list: many people will not be able to read them and the
> list archives will usually not archive them well.

I always use plain text, but here I screwed up when trying to add an
inline image.

> If you are willing to invest some time (and prod the list for help for
> individual problems: there are a lot of very helpful people and capable
> around here) I am pretty sure that LilyPond can get a lot better for
> diatonics than it is now.

I also have an impression that there are as many different writing
notations as there are teachers :) :) :)

But the example in attachment is a good compromise that allows piano
players as well as either type of accordion player (those who prefer
reading the usual score and those who prefer just counting buttons) to
follow and I see it used here pretty often.

> but there is quite a lot of potential for good return on moderate
> investment of time.

I hope so :)

> As an initial keyword to look for: you'll want to go with a ChordNames
> context or Lyrics for aligned material I think.

OK, ChordNames might work.

It won't allow for the super intuitive writing because then durations
have to be specified twice. It would be more sensible to combine the
"Chord" with the "pitch", but the Chords might be a good start.

I'm still a bit confused though about how Chords work.

Yes, I will need signs for directions (push/pull) etc., but the
following snippet could be a better minimal starting point for me:

http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.18/Documentation/snippets/templates#templates-single-staff-template-with-notes-lyrics-chords-and-frets

But the example requires specifying real chords. How could I write
   B3 (with finger 1)
without any real meaning or something like
   1.B3
instead of "C"? Or a "stacked" example
    3.B5
    2.B4
in place of another chord?

> Nice to see you here!

Yes, we miss you a lot too at the Polish bonfires :)

Mojca

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