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Re: Ego autem non intellego gregorian.ly (translatum googlum)


From: Alicuota618
Subject: Re: Ego autem non intellego gregorian.ly (translatum googlum)
Date: Wed, 31 Dec 2014 20:22:49 -0500

Dear Joram,

thanks first, this look much better this way.

About your question about hyphening, I just took it from the example
given in the manual and tried and failed...

Best thanks and happy new year!

F

2014-12-31 20:11 GMT-05:00, Noeck <address@hidden>:
> Hi again François,
>
> there two limiting factors to my answer: 1) I did not write many
> gregorian chants and 2) Lilypond has some limitations in this area.
>
> But there are a few things I know how to improve and I have a few
> questions for you:
>
> Is it a convention in gregorian chants to have the hyphens left aligned
> to the previous syllable (output: Ro-  ra-  te) and not centered like it
> is usually done in LilyPond (output: Ro - ra - te)? Or is it just a
> shortcoming of many programs that they can not handle lyric hyphens in
> such a way? In the example below, I used the LilyPond default way to
> separate syllables: Ro -- ra -- te (output: Ro - ra - te).
>
>> I am not happy with the first b-flat (too close to the flexus),
>
> I don’t know any systematic help. The override fixes it in this case.
>
>> the episema (too close to the flexa, maybe the ictus, too far from note.
>
> Again, an override can move it.
>
>> And about usage:
>> in the sanctus example mentionned above, the hyphens are simple and
>> lily interprets them as: "jump to the next neuma"
>> In my example it seems to be a "wait to the next note" but the hyphens
>> I had to insert are colliding with the text.
>
> The hyphens you used are just text as any other text so you could also
> space the notes with A’s or .’s – what you want is to skip a note using
> a _ in your file (see the example below).
>
>
> \version "2.18.2"
>
> \paper {
>   ragged-right = ##t
> }
>
> \include "gregorian.ly"
> \score {
>   <<
>     \new VaticanaVoice = "cantus" {
>       \override Lyrics.LyricHyphen #'minimum-X-extent = #'( 2 . 2)
>       \clef "vaticana-do3"
>       f
>       \[ g \pes a \]
>       \once\override Script.extra-offset = #'(0 . 0.9)
>       a\ictus
>       d' c'
>       \[ c'
>       \once\override Accidental.extra-offset = #'(-0.3 . 0)
>       \flexa  bes \]
>       a
>       \once \override Episema.extra-offset = #'(0 . 0.2)
>       \[ a \episemInitium \flexa g \episemFinis \]
>       \divisioMaior
>       s a bes a
>       \[ g \flexa f \] e
>       \[ f \flexa e \] \augmentum d
>       \finalis
>     }
>     \new Lyrics \lyricsto "cantus" {
>       %% Use the next line to force hyphens:
>       \override Lyrics.LyricHyphen #'minimum-distance = 0.7
>       Ro -- ra -- _ te coe -- li de -- _ su -- per _
>       et nu -- bes plu -- _ ant Jus -- _ tum.
>     }
>   >>
> }
>
> Cheers,
> Joram
>
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