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Re: \relative proposal: putting absolute pitches anywhere within \relati
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David Kastrup |
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Re: \relative proposal: putting absolute pitches anywhere within \relative block using @-sign |
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Wed, 13 Mar 2013 23:44:36 +0100 |
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Olivier Biot <address@hidden> writes:
> On Wed, Mar 13, 2013 at 8:24 PM, <address@hidden> wrote:
>
> Examples:
>
> 1. { c4 c' c@'' c@, }
>
> These are interpreted as absolute pitches, so the @-signs are
> redundant here.
> They could be silently ignored, or the at signs could be an error
> outside of \relative blocks.
>
> What do people think?
>
> Hmmm... I'd use the @ sign as a prefix, not as a suffix, as in:
>
> { c4 c' @c'' @c, }
>
> However, more fundamentally, I think the entire discussion relates to
> the intent of \relative and the current use seen by the LiliPond
> community.
>
> I'd rather see \relative { @c4 c' c'' c, } than \relative { c4 c' c''
> c, } in cases when the first pitch is supposed / expected to be an
> absolute pitch.
What else is it supposed to be?
> However there is no fundamental need for the first pitch being an
> absolute pitch in the first place.
It can be relative to f if we want to. That adds the least amount of
information to the first pitch.
> Maybe we must work on the intent of \relative first.
I have a hard time imagining what that is supposed to mean if we assume
that we haven't been doing it so far.
--
David Kastrup
- Re: \relative proposal: putting absolute pitches anywhere within \relative block using @-sign, (continued)
- Re: \relative proposal: putting absolute pitches anywhere within \relative block using @-sign, David Kastrup, 2013/03/13
- Re: \relative proposal: putting absolute pitches anywhere within \relative block using @-sign, nothingwavering, 2013/03/14
- Re: \relative proposal: putting absolute pitches anywhere within \relative block using @-sign, Kieren MacMillan, 2013/03/14
- Re: \relative proposal: putting absolute pitches anywhere within \relative block using @-sign, David Kastrup, 2013/03/14
- Re: \relative proposal: putting absolute pitches anywhere within \relative block using @-sign, David Kastrup, 2013/03/14
- Re: \relative proposal: putting absolute pitches anywhere within \relative block using @-sign, David Kastrup, 2013/03/14
- Re: \relative proposal: putting absolute pitches anywhere within \relative block using @-sign, Olivier Biot, 2013/03/13
- Re: \relative proposal: putting absolute pitches anywhere within \relative block using @-sign,
David Kastrup <=
- Re: \relative proposal: putting absolute pitches anywhere within \relative block using @-sign, Olivier Biot, 2013/03/13
- Re: \relative proposal: putting absolute pitches anywhere within \relative block using @-sign, Werner LEMBERG, 2013/03/14
- Re: \relative proposal: putting absolute pitches anywhere within \relative block using @-sign, David Kastrup, 2013/03/14
- Re: \relative proposal: putting absolute pitches anywhere within \relative block using @-sign, Janek WarchoĊ, 2013/03/14
- Re: \relative proposal: putting absolute pitches anywhere within \relative block using @-sign, Anthonys Lists, 2013/03/23
- RE: \relative proposal: putting absolute pitches anywhere within \relative block using @-sign, Curt McDowell, 2013/03/23
- Re: \relative proposal: putting absolute pitches anywhere within \relative block using @-sign, David Kastrup, 2013/03/24
Re: Proposed new available and recommended behavior of \relative, Graham Percival, 2013/03/07