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Proposed new available and recommended behavior of \relative
From: |
Hwaen Ch'uqi |
Subject: |
Proposed new available and recommended behavior of \relative |
Date: |
Sat, 9 Mar 2013 00:20:38 -0500 |
Greetings All,
In truth, I am quite satisfied with the current state of
\relative, whether with or without an absolute pitch indicated before
the braces. And yes, I do understand that, though users are at present
discouraged from using the latter, both
\relative c' { MUSIC } and \relative { MUSIC }
yield the same result. But why, after all, is the latter meant to be
deprecated? Do not the docs, in explaining the placement of pitch `c',
use middle C as a point of reference - as in, an octave below middle
C? And so, if the proposed change is implemented, my mental process of
assigning or interpreting
\relative fis'' { MUSIC } or \relative { fis'' MORE MUSIC }
invariably remains the same - that is, calculate the placement of said
pitch located two octaves and a raised fourth above the C which is one
octave below middle C. (This is why the deprecated syntax is so
useful; it is more direct, eliminating a step in the calculation.)
I also share and echo reservations about mixing the purpose of
commas and apostrophes within the \relative braces themselves. This
may be a subtle distinction, but I cannot agree that, in the case of
\relative { fis'' MORE MUSIC }
that `fis''' is an absolute pitch. Yes, its placement is firmly
established, but only as it is *relative* to `c'. In which case, why
not leave the \relative situation as currently is, where the one true
absolute pitch of `c' (which, incidentally, is as arbitrary as any
other pitch) is invoked as a function of calling \relative in the
first place and is then used immediately - that is, before the braces
- in establishing a different reference point as desired by the user?
Hwaen Ch'uqi
- Re: Proposed new available and recommended behavior of \relative, (continued)
- Re: Proposed new available and recommended behavior of \relative, Nathan, 2013/03/07
- Re: Proposed new available and recommended behavior of \relative, Janek Warchoł, 2013/03/07
- Re: Proposed new available and recommended behavior of \relative, Jim Long, 2013/03/07
- Re: Proposed new available and recommended behavior of \relative, David Kastrup, 2013/03/07
- Re: Proposed new available and recommended behavior of \relative, Evan Driscoll, 2013/03/08
- Re: Proposed new available and recommended behavior of \relative, Graham Percival, 2013/03/08
- Re: Proposed new available and recommended behavior of \relative, Werner LEMBERG, 2013/03/08
- Re: Proposed new available and recommended behavior of \relative, David Kastrup, 2013/03/08
- Re: Proposed new available and recommended behavior of \relative, Olivier Biot, 2013/03/08
- Proposed new available and recommended behavior of \relative,
Hwaen Ch'uqi <=
- Re: Proposed new available and recommended behavior of \relative, David Kastrup, 2013/03/09
- Re: Proposed new available and recommended behavior of \relative, Janek Warchoł, 2013/03/09
- Re: Proposed new available and recommended behavior of \relative, David Kastrup, 2013/03/09
- Re: Proposed new available and recommended behavior of \relative, Olivier Biot, 2013/03/09
- Re: Proposed new available and recommended behavior of \relative, Janek Warchoł, 2013/03/09
- Re: Proposed new available and recommended behavior of \relative, David Kastrup, 2013/03/09
- Re: Proposed new available and recommended behavior of \relative, Olivier Biot, 2013/03/09
- Re: Proposed new available and recommended behavior of \relative, David Kastrup, 2013/03/09
- Re: Proposed new available and recommended behavior of \relative, Graham Percival, 2013/03/12
- Re: Proposed new available and recommended behavior of \relative, David Kastrup, 2013/03/12