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Re: best practices
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Graham Percival |
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Re: best practices |
Date: |
Sun, 19 Sep 2010 21:01:01 +0100 |
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On Sun, Sep 19, 2010 at 09:36:21PM +0200, David Kastrup wrote:
> "Phil Holmes" <address@hidden> writes:
>
> > I'm generally normally quite helpful (or try to be). It was just that
> > Graham had given you all the information you needed - you just needed
> > to read it and spend a little while wondering what LM could stand for.
>
> It is agreed-upon best practice _not_ to use those abbreviations on the
> general user list.
Yes.
However, I must clarify that the email in which I said "They're LM
5 Working on LilyPond projects" was written in June 2008. Over
TWO YEARS ago!
http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2008-06/msg00588.html
This was:
- before that material was moved into Usage in 2.13
- before 2.13 even existed -- this was during the 2.11 period!
- before we agreed not to use LM abbreviations.
> Because it is disingenuous to play guessing games with unsuspecting
> beginning users.
Agreed. This was part of the motivation for the redesigned
website. Users now see "Learning" in a number of places,
including the navigation bars.
> but then
> everybody and his dog jumps in barking at the newcomer who did not
> understand Graham's absolutely cryptic remark (imagine not being into
> lilypond-devel slang and try reading any sense into it), giving him the
> full "unpaid volunteers, scurvy dog" treatment.
- user replies to a 26-month-old email
- Phil Holmes clarifies it:
"Um. Learning Manual 5. Entitled "Working on LilyPond
projects".
http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2010-09/msg00471.html
- user says "I don't appreciate the condescending response. This
is my first experience feeling UNwelcome as a LilyPond newbie."
http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2010-09/msg00473.html
- I get pissed off because Phil was being completely helpful, and
I'm supposed to be the newbie-bashing guy.
Was my reaction overblown? Perhaps. But was Phil's "Um." really
all that condescending? Does three letters (well, two letters and
a punctuation) really imply a "UNwelcome" feeling?
Get real.
- Graham
- Re: best practices, aliteralmind, 2010/09/19
- Re: best practices, Phil Holmes, 2010/09/19
- Re: best practices, aliteralmind, 2010/09/19
- Re: best practices, James Bailey, 2010/09/19
- Re: best practices, Graham Percival, 2010/09/19
- Re: best practices, aliteralmind, 2010/09/19
- Re: best practices, Phil Holmes, 2010/09/19
- Re: best practices, David Kastrup, 2010/09/19
- Re: best practices,
Graham Percival <=
- Re: best practices, Martin Tarenskeen, 2010/09/19
- Re: best practices, Graham Percival, 2010/09/19
- Re: best practices, David Kastrup, 2010/09/20
- Re: best practices, aliteralmind, 2010/09/22
- Re: best practices, Phil Holmes, 2010/09/19
- Re: best practices, Dmytro O. Redchuk, 2010/09/20
- Re: best practices, David Kastrup, 2010/09/20
- Re: best practices, Dmytro O. Redchuk, 2010/09/20
- Re: best practices, Trevor Daniels, 2010/09/19
- Re: best practices, Phil Holmes, 2010/09/19