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Re: centering rests


From: Mats Bengtsson
Subject: Re: centering rests
Date: Sat, 31 Oct 2009 17:08:41 +0100
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Quoting Bertalan Fodor <address@hidden>:


But in 4/4 with partial? I don't have access to lily now but i think i saw that failing.
It should still not be centered, should it? The bug/limitation you might have in mind is that you have to play some tricks to make \RemoveEmptyStaffContext remove a line that only has rests, if the line includes a pickup like r4.

  /Mats


---- Original message ----
From: Mats Bengtsson <address@hidden>
Sent: 30 Oct 2009 10:00 +01:00
To: Bertalan Fodor <address@hidden>
Cc: Erik Appeldoorn <address@hidden>,  <address@hidden>
Subject: Re: centering rests



Bertalan Fodor wrote:
I think that's a bug as R2 is not centered.

??? An R2 is certainly centered within the measure if you have 2/4 time:

<<
 \new Staff \relative c'{ \time 2/4 c8 d e f }
 \new Staff {R2 }
>>

However, as was pointed out by Kieren, a half note rest in the beginning
of a 4/4 measure should be left aligned with the first note of the
measure, not centered in the first half of the measure, according to
common typesetting practice.

   /Mats

 ---- Original message ----
From: Erik Appeldoorn <address@hidden>
Sent: 29 Oct 2009 18:39 +01:00
To: 'Kieren MacMillan' <address@hidden>
Cc:  <address@hidden>
Subject: RE: centering rests

You are quite right, and I have never even bothered to check. Although I
have a quite substantial library and am over 25 years active with music.

Erik


-----Original Message-----
From: Kieren MacMillan [mailto:address@hidden
Sent: donderdag 29 oktober 2009 18:29
To: Erik Appeldoorn
Cc: address@hidden
Subject: Re: centering rests

Hi Erik,

when I want to use r2 at the start (or R2) of the bar it looks
awfull. So how do I align these rests centered?


If you mean that you want the (e.g.) half-note rest to be mid-way
through the first half of the measure, rather than left-aligned at
the first beat, then... you don't/shouldn't.

In standard music engraving practice, the full-measure rest is the
*only* one that is centered in its [horizontal] duration-space - all
other rests are placed at the position where they first happen in the
flow of time, just like their sounding-note equivalent(s).

Hope this helps!
Kieren.=




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