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From: | Grammostola Rosea |
Subject: | Re: display chords (Ami7(b5)) |
Date: | Wed, 25 Feb 2009 20:18:00 +0100 |
User-agent: | Mozilla-Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (X11/20090103) |
Shamus wrote:
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Grammostola Rosea wrote:Tim McNamara wrote:On Feb 22, 2009, at 1:59 PM, Grammostola Rosea wrote:Tim McNamara wrote:On Feb 22, 2009, at 8:02 AM, Grammostola Rosea wrote:Hi, How do I make chords with the 5th an half tone lower or higher (e.g. b5 or #5)? for example Am7(b5) or D7(#5)I just asked this same question a couple of weeks ago. The standard way would be: Am7(b5) for two beats = a2:m7.5- which will render as Aø D7(#5) for four beats = d1:7.5+ which will render as D7/#5 You can do #9 or b9, etc. this way. All the altered notes will be preceded by a slash except the major 7th, m7b5 and diminished chords which are denoted by a delta, diminished sign or half-diminished sign respectively. There are other options for rendering the chords which involve setting up a file of chord markups. For more information, look in the mailing list archives for the thread "Hello! and question about jazz chords" for more details. The thread started 10 Feb 2009.Thanks! Yeah it would be nice if jazz chords will be improved in Lilypond, like it was suggested in the link you gave...Well, the jazz chord rendering follows a set of conventions, just not the ones established at Berklee and in the Real Book. There's really nothing wrong with it except that it's not what most jazz musicians will expect (and the slash is a bit confusing- "is the #5 in the bass?"). But I've been handed lots of charts at rehearsals with the chords rendered the way LilyPond does it.No nothing wrong at all. But maybe it is nice to have both (different) options to display the chords...This has been a contentious issue for me as well--while in the past the chord rendering was really awful, the situation *is* much improved today now that it is possible to override the defaults. Also, there just doesn't seem to be much agreement on how chords should be rendered even in category subsets like jazz or pop for that matter. So my solution has been to maintain a separate file with chord definitions that I like (side note: it would be nice to be able to simply include the file and get results that you expect, much like when you include a language file). I'm including mine here so you can get an idea of how it's done and how to use it (mebbe I should post this on LSR?). Perhaps in the future the authors might make a contrib folder for a whole bunch of different chord styles and make it as easy to use as including the right file. I don't know how much work would be involved, but it seems like it would go a long way towards alleviating these kinds of posts that inevitably crop up as more and more people discover that they can do really nice lead sheets with lilypond. :-)
Thanks for sharing!!
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