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ties and triplets


From: Seng Liang
Subject: ties and triplets
Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2005 09:05:46 +0000 (UTC)
User-agent: Loom/3.14 (http://gmane.org/)

Hi, I have problems regarding ties and triplets with Lilypond version 2.7.12 
for Windows 98. Here is the entire file for your reference (if you copy the 
file to Notepad, every line consists of four(4) bars):

\version "2.7.12" 
\relative { 
\time 3/4 
\key a \major 
\partial 8 a'8 e'4. d16( cis) b8 cis cis8.( d16) d4-. r8 d-. cis16( e) d( b) a4.
( b8) bis( cis) cis4-. r16 d( e fis) 
e( cis) d( b) a4.\( \appoggiatura cis16 b8\) a4 r4 a'8.( gis16) fis4 r8 d d d 
bis4( cis) a'8.( gis16) 
fis4 r8 d d d bis16( cis) cis-. cis-. cis( d) d-. d-. dis( e) e-. e-. eis( fis) 
fis-. fis-. fis( gis a gis) fis( e d cis) cis8.\trill b32 cis b4 r4 
r8 cis16(\p e) r8 a16( e) r8 cis16( e) r8 e16( d) r8 cis16( d) r8 b16( gis) r8 
a16( cis) r8 a'16( e) r8 cis16( e) r8 e16( d) r8 cis16( d) r8 b16( gis) 
a16-.( cis-. d-. e-.) fis-.( fis-. e-. e-.) fis-.( fis-. gis-. a-.) a8\f( cis b 
a gis a) fis( a gis fis eis fis) e( fis16 d) cis4 b8.\trill a32 b | 
a8 e4\p d16( cis b cis d e) d2( cis8) a\p\noBeam e'4. d16( cis) b8 cis cis8.( 
d16) d4-. r8 d-. 
cis16( e) d( b) a4.( b8) bis( cis) cis4-. r16 d( e fis) e( cis) d( b) a4.( b8) 
a8 e'16\f( fis) e8-. e-. e4-. 
r8 e4\p d16( cis) b8 cis cis8.( d16) d4-. r4 \times 2/3 { cis8( a e') } e8[( d) 
d( cis]) cis4( b8[) gis'32( fis gis a]) b16-. b-. b-. b-. 
b4. e8( dis cis) cis( b) b[ gis32( fis gis a]) b16-. b-. b-. b-. b2.:16 b4: b16
( dis e dis) e( b a gis) 
fis8 fis fis fis fis fis fis4 fis r4 r8 gis16( b) r8 b16( e) r8 e16( gis) r8 a16
( fis) r8 dis16( fis) r8 dis16( a) 
r8 gis16( b) r8 b16( e) r8 e16( gis) r8 a16( fis) r8 dis16( fis) r8 dis16( a) 
gis4 d'2\f~d4 cis-. r4 | 
 e,8\p( gis fis e dis e) cis( e dis cis bis cis) cis( a') gis gis fis fis b4. d8
( cis bis) 
\times 2/3 { cis8( dis e) } e4 r4 \setTextCresc r16 gis16 gis gis gis gis gis 
gis gis gis\< gis gis\! fis2.:16 e4\f r4  e8.( dis16) | 
cis4 r8 a8 a a fisis4( gis) e'8.( dis16) cis4 r8 a a a fisis16( gis) gis-. gis-
. gis( a) a-. a-. ais( b) b-. b-. 
bis( cis) cis-. cis-. cis( dis) dis-. dis-. dis( e) e-. e-. e( cis) b( a) gis4 
fis8.\trill e32 fis e8 b gis4 r8 b8\p b4. a8( b cis) | 
cis8( d) d8-.[ b32( a b cis]) d16-. d-. d-. d-. cis4. b8( cis d) dis( e) e8-.[ 
e32( d e fis]) e16-. e-. e-. e-. e4( d cis) 
cis8[( b]) fis' fis b b b4 b r8\fermata a,8 e'4. d16( cis) b8 cis cis8.( d16) 
d4-. r8 d-. 
cis16( e) d( b) a4.( b8) bis( cis) cis4-. r16 d( e fis) e( cis) d( b) a4.( b8) 
\stemUp 
a4~a8[ cis'32( b cis d]) \stemNeutral e16-. e-. fis-. fis-. g8[( e]) e e e e d 
d d d d d d d cis b a g g g fis[ d'32( cis d e]) fis16-. fis-. fis-. fis-. 
fis8 fis d cis b a a4 gis! r4 r8 cis16( e) r8 a16( e) r8 cis16( e) r8 e16( d) 
r8 cis16( d) r8 b16( gis)
r8 a16( cis) r8 e16( a) r8 cis16( a) r8 d16( b) r8 gis16( b) r8 b,16( gis) a4 
g'2\f~g4-. fis-. r4 
fis,8\p( a gis fis eis fis) d( fis e d cis d) e( fis16 d cis4 b) bis( cis) r8 
a'8 
e'4. d16( cis) b8 cis cis8.( d16) d4-. r8 d-. cis16( e) d( b) a4.( b8) cis( d 
cis b a g) | 
g8[( fis]) fis-. b32( a b cis) d16-. d-. d-. d-. cis8( e) d( cis) b( ais) b4 a 
gis a4. ais8( b cis) | 
\times 2/3  { d8 e fis } fis4 r4 e8( cis) fis( cis) d( b) a16 cis cis cis << { 
cis2:16 } { \setTextCresc s8\< s8  s8\! } >> b2.: 
r8 a16\p( cis) r8 e16( cis) r8 gis'16\f( a) r8 a,16\p( d) r8 fis16( d) r8 gis16
\f( a) r8 a,16( cis) r8 e16( cis) r8 fis16\f( g) r8 g16( fis) r8 dis16( e) r8 
e16( d) 
<cis e,>4 r4 r4\fermata a4 r4 a'8.( gis16) fis4 r8 d d d bis4( cis) a'8.( 
gis16) 
fis4 r8 d d d bis16( cis) cis-. cis-. cis( d) d-. d-. dis( e) e-. e-. eis( fis) 
fis-. fis-. fis( gis) gis-. gis-. gis( a) a-. a-. 
fis( a) fis( d) cis4 b8.\trill a32 b 
a8 e4\p e e8~e8 e4 e4 e8 e8 g4 bes g8 } 

Now please observe the ties in bar 43/44, 71, 83/84, 113/114. The ties are 
incorrectly positioned vertically on the notes. Why is this? Is this another 
bug in 2.7.12? I've included the entire file because when I tried to replicate 
the individual bars with the ties, everything is ok( the ties are correctly 
positioned when I only generate that particular bar). I know for certain that 
this problem doesn't appear in versions 2.6.x

Secondly, why are there brackets appearing underneath the triplet notes, above 
the "3" symbol in bars 31 and 97 respectively? I know from experience that only 
the "3" symbol appears when using version 2.6.x Is there a way to get rid of 
the brackets for the triplets? 
I'm assumming that since both these problems occur in 2.7.12 and not in 2.6.x 
that the problem lies in the programme and not the file itself. Can anybody 
please help?
Thank you.
Yours sincerely,
Seng Liang.
 
P.S. I would be happy to send the pdf file if anyone would like to see it 
instead of generating it themselves. I don't know if these problems are system 
related (I'm using Windows 98). So if you use XP the problem might not appear 
in your pdf file.









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