Re: accent not working as expected/desired

[Mats Bengtsson]

The positioning is different for different articulations, according
to normal typesetting practice (that's the intention, at least).
For example, \accent, \staccato and \tenuto go into the stave, whereas
\turn and \portato stay outside the stave, just to mention a few.

The easiest way to break this convention and typeset an \accent outside
the stave is to use \markup, just as you tried. However, inside a
\markup{...}, you can only use the commands listed in
http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.4/Documentation/user/out-www/lilypond/Overview-of-text-markup-commands.html#Overview-of-text-markup-commands
To access the accent symbol, you have to use the \musicglyph command:
c2. _\markup{\musicglyph #"scripts-sforzato"}

To avoid collisions between fingerings and slurs, change the padding
property for the fingering, see
http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.4/Documentation/user/out-www/lilypond/Common-tweaks.html#Common-tweaks
for inspiration.

   /Mats


Kenward Vaughan wrote:
> Hi folks,
>
> I'm a 1 year cellist who decided to learn lilypond as the best way to
> rewrite a piece I'm learning.  The original is too compact for my eyes
> at my (ahem) age, and I found that lilypond's output managed the job
> superbly.
>
> I tend to be a perfectionist, though, and wanted an accent in a
> particular measure to be below the staff lines rather than within those
> lines.  The notes involved are 2 tied middle C's between two measures,
> with the accent on the first.  The specific line I wrote in my file is
>
> c2.~_\accent c2.\bar "|."  % 79 and 80
>
> This is bass clef, as expected, and the above notes stand a line above
> the normal staff.  The accent mark insists on moving into the staff
> lines, so I assume that its position is tied to the note, with no
> regard for the staff's position?
>
> I tried playing with the markup command, but lilypond does not accept
> the \accent as is shown in the documentation.  In other words,
>
> c2._\markup { \accent } 
>
> generates an error.  Any permutation of this fails as well. I am using
> version 2.4.5 under Debian Sid.
>
> I assume that some internal variable can be adjusted to affect this,
> but I honestly have zoned out, in a sense, trying to answer this one. 
> Can someone please explain to me what could be done to address this?
>
> Would such an approach also give me another way to address the
> following, where the normal fingering numbers plow into the slur line?
>
> e4( f8) e8-1(
>  fis^\markup { "" \raise #1.0 \translate #(cons -1 0) { \small \bold 2x } }
>  gis)^\markup { "" \raise #1.0 \translate #(cons -1 0) { \small \bold 4x } }
>
> or
>
> f8(^\markup { "" \raise #0.6 \translate #(cons -0.7 0) { \small \bold 2 } }
>   g^\markup { "" \raise #1.5 \translate #(cons -0.7 0) { \small \bold 4 } }
>   a)^\markup { "" \raise #0.8 \translate #(cons -0.7 0) { \small \bold 0 } }
>   a( g f)
>
> (These may wrap because of my editor afterwards.  Sorry.)
>
> (It's been an interesting weekend, learning this stuff!  :)
>
>
> Many thanks!
>
>
> Kenward

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