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Re: [OT]Re: Lute tablature
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Michal Seta |
Subject: |
Re: [OT]Re: Lute tablature |
Date: |
Wed, 21 May 2003 00:53:59 -0500 |
On Wed, 21 May 2003 00:01:35 -0400
William wrote:
> Michal, I don't know if you did what I did, but the 'from:' on this
> email is only aimed at me, no cc: in evidence. If you wanted it to go
> to the list, you'll need to remake or forward it.
argh... I do that all the time...
>
> I'm familiar with the tab program. [snip] but it doesn't do other
> notations well.
That's what turned me off. I needed something where I could mix tab,
standard expressive marks and poetry, all in a flexible layout.
>
> My dream remains that Lilypond will address tab in a truely sensible
> fashion, which allows it to be useful both to modern and
> historical-focussed musicians and composers. Already, giant steps are
> being made in older notational forms for staff music. The tab is still
> very much in its infancy.
My thoughts exactly. However, I'd be interested in contemporary
notation to appear sooner than the historical :) but improvements to
the tab would be welcome...
> As I said in my post, I'm at
> the point where I can look at tab, feel it in my hands and hear it in
> my head (even with some scordaturae) without having to have it
> performed for me, or even having to have a stringed instrument in my
> hands.
Well, that's because you have played the instrument for a long time and
you have a 'physical' relationship with it. Some time ago I was able to
look at tabs in 'Guitar PLayer' or the like and 'hear' the lines
including various bends, artificial harmonics and such. However, I
still considered it a 'lesser' notational practice (not anymore though,
I'm out of academia now :). But I do agree that
tab is useful as performance notation.
BTW, correct me if I'm wrong, fantasias were mostly improvised pieces so
the transciptions are not really a 'faithful' representations of
those... Whether they include a vocal line or not...
>
> I'm fascinated that you're using a guitar with a viol for modern
> compositions! That sounds really neat. My bass violist is always after
> me because I tend not to want to get into modern stuff written for
> viols(to be honest, most of what I've seen is pretty bad).
I have heard some interesting works but I can't recall the composers
now... If you want I can dig out the info. I heard some works
performed by Les Voix Humaines and I think they might have recorded them
but I'm not sure.
> Have you done
> anything that doesn't require moving the frets on the viol, and might
> even be scored in regular notation? (The guitar part can be anything,
> I can read notation, tab, change the tuning and whatever. But Jennifer
> is reluctant to consider trying to read period notation, and has
> avoided tab like it's a plague!)
No. I always like to complicate mine and others' life... But, luckily,
Lorne was into trying new things. I use primarily linux and scoring,
especially microtonal music, isn't easy on this platform without major
hacking. I almost used CMN but then opted for tab because it was so
much easier to: 1) write down whatever i was trying to do on guitar
(both instruments are tuned the same way) and 2) sight-read without
scratching your head every bar or so.
If you want to hear some improvised
electronic music using gamba, prepared guitar, computers and keyboards
don't miss http://www.noonereceiving.32k.org. (sorry, couldn't resist
the plug)
Otherwise, I'm planning to release the piece I'm about finish which is
written for 2 spoken word performers, gamba, guitar and computer. The
instruments are tuned in Just Intonation. The score and the software
will be a free download. They will be of not much use because I don't
know many guitarists who are eager to rip off their frets and replace
them with pieces of wires and then relearn the instrument...
>
> Anyway, I appreciate the response, and the pointer to the tab program
> is a good one, as long as you aren't trying to make an integrated
> edition with tab and modern notation.
That's why I stick with lilypond.
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