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"Torsten Hämmerle" address@hidden writes:

Hi David and Harm,

You're right, I'm probably making this up.
But I haven't found a single example in Learning Manual, Notation
Manual, where chord fingerings outside the chord.

Documentation/notation/simultaneous.itely: <a' c="" e="">1\p^"text" q2\<( q8)[-! q8.]! q16-1-2-3 q8\prall

Which is a single example. Admittedly, the only one I found with a
simple regex.

Besides, fingeringOrientations will only work for fingerings within
<>.

Well, yes. Per-chord fingerings make a single stack which would be
tricky to combine with fingeringOrientations. The two fingering
engravers are not feature equivalent and very likely not bug equivalent
either.

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David Kastrup

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[issues:#3692] Fingering collision with accidentals

Status: Started
Created: Sat Nov 30, 2013 09:17 AM UTC by Anonymous
Last Updated: Fri Aug 03, 2018 02:32 PM UTC
Owner: Torsten Hämmerle
Attachments:

• fingering.preview.png (4.6 kB; image/png)

Originally created by: *anonymous

Originally created by: address@hidden

Fingerings do not take accidentals into account, and fingerings align over the first note inout of a chord, rather than centering over the whole chord.
\version "2.17.96"

{
  <e'' f'' cis'''>1 ^1^2^5
}

From Keith Ohara:
"Unfortunately this is a different bug -- or two -- so it will
not be fixed at the same time as collisions between Fingerings.

(1) LilyPond has never looked at Accidentals when placing Fingering;
until recently that caused only small overlaps with sharps because
the Fingering did not previously fit so close to the chord.

(2) Fingering on a chord as a whole should center over the main column
of note-heads; instead it centers over the first-input note.

So, you can do the same as we did when using version 2.12: rearrange
the order of pitches in the chord so a main-column note comes first.

{ <f'' e'' cis'''>1 ^1^2^5 }

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From Janek :

This is similar to issues
https://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=2245
https://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=2451
https://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=2452

and i believe to solve it in a general way we would have to teach
lilypond about different kinds of extents - see:

http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-devel/2012-06/msg00230.html
https://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=3239 (sorry, that
issue got pretty messy).

Currently the work i started on this is waiting until 2.18.0 is out...
What about leaving it for now and attacking this together after 2.18?
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Possibly a Known Issue in NR 1.7.1 would be in order.

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