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Subject: [Lilypond-auto] [LilyIssues-auto] [testlilyissues:issues] Re: Ticket 4509 discussion
Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2017 09:04:12 +0000

For display-lily-tests.ly, the output is expected and could be marked "NOT A BUG", but it isn't pretty. Since there is no need to enter __ manually anymore (and it is ignored by the parser), \displayLilyMusic should not emit it either.

I don't think that this is a problem of \displayLilyMusic: if lyric extenders no longer convey any meaning present in the input, they should not be part of the music _expression_ in the first place. Music expressions are supposed to represent the input. If a LyricEvent should automatically cause the actions associated with a LyricExtender, then the solution is to change the respective action of the engraver for lyric extenders so that it no longer relies on extender events but works on the LyricEvent s directly.


[issues:#4509] Enhancement: automatically engrave lyric extenders

Status: Started
Created: Sat Jul 18, 2015 03:23 AM UTC by Anonymous
Last Updated: Thu Jan 26, 2017 07:38 AM UTC
Owner: Alexander Kobel
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Originally created by: *anonymous

Originally created by: address@hidden

Actually, this is a content vs. presentation issue. The current approach has lyric extenders ‘hardcoded’ within the lyricmode input, whereas often it depends on layout whether I want an extender printed or not:
– In tight horizontal spacing, we might not need an extender, but when spacing is stretched, it might become necessary. This can come through different (page/line) breaking, parallel contexts present only in some editions (part vs. score), Completion_heads_engraver (mensural without barlines/transcription with barlines).
– Long syllables might not need an extender, where short syllables do.
– Often, all voices share the same text, but have extenders in different places. If extenders need not be given explicitly, the lyricmode input code can be reused much easier.

After all, the extenders don’t add any additional meaning, but only serve to improve legibility in such cases where they do.

This would require:
– Recognising the end of a word by absence of a hyphen.
– Comparing printed length of the melisma notes vs. the syllable, likely after line breaking. After all, extenders will never influence horizontal spacing. They might, however, affect vertical spacing. (unless we chose to omit (or shift) the extender in that case?)
– Personally, I think very short extenders shouldn’t be printed. There should be some kind of threshold.
It’s also one of the usecases where a proper representation of a ‘lyric word’ would be helpful, along with issue 2458.

Possibly related:
issue 4098

Version 2.12 had this listed as a Known issue.


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