Re: People calling the GPLs 'evil licenses' - action plan?

[Aaron Wolf]

   FWIW, as a link anyone can use, I put together this some years ago,
   aiming to be fair and neutral enough while advocating copyleft:
   [1]https://wiki.snowdrift.coop/about/licenses
   That's probably the ideal link to share in this case IMHO

   On May 17, 2022 2:27:30 PM PDT, Dennis Payne
   <dulsi@identicalsoftware.com> wrote:

Having one person consider GPL an evil license isn't a big deal. I
wouldn't waste a lot of time trying to convert him. Nor would I send
them a link to long essay explaining the situation. wolftune's argument
is the simplest. However since you already sent him an offensive
article, I doubt any argument will have much effect at this point.
On Tue, 2022-05-17 at 23:52 +0800, andrew via libreplanet-discuss
wrote:

     Andrew  Would
     [2]https://git.andrewyu.org/pygame-multiplayer/ suffice to
     indicate extending an existing Expat (MIT) project into a project
     based on the original work but licensed under the (A)GPL?
     Andrew  ugh, forgot to place the agpl in it
     ChrisWarrick    ask a lawyer
     ChrisWarrick    (and consider a less evil license)
     Andrew  Not asking for legal advice, just general practice
     Andrew  And I don't consider the GPLs to be evil, I use  them for
     bigger projects while I use public domain (unlicense) for smaller
     ones
     ChrisWarrick    licenses are legal stuff, so you are asking for
     legal
     advice
     Andrew  asking stuff like 'does the US have any laws' is legal but
     isn't asking for legal advice imo
     ChrisWarrick    your question is “am I interpeting and using the
     license correctly”
     Andrew  i guess
     Andrew  and why do you think the gpl is evil?
     ChrisWarrick    GPL, and especially AGPL, makes your code less free
     than MIT/BSD
     nedbat  Andrew: this is a classic debate
     Andrew  ChrisWarrick: PM me, thanks
     Andrew  because I want to prevent people from proprietizing it
     ChrisWarrick    but at the same time, you’re benefitting from
     Brandon
     Nguyen’s work
     Andrew  yes
     ChrisWarrick    but he isn’t able to benefit from yours
     Andrew  they could use the AGPL/GPL, and they could ask me for an
     exception
     Andrew  the greater danger is people taking expat code and
     proprietizing it, hindering free use altogether
     ChrisWarrick    what is wrong with proprietary use though?
     Andrew  i'll get back to you with an article tomorrow, thanks on
     your
     thoughts
     Andrew  meanwhile,
     [3]https://lukesmith.xyz/articles/why-i-use-the-gpl-and-not-cuck-lic
     enses
      explains part of it
     Andrew  dont agree to all of it, i see a lot of use of permissive
     licenses, but not for the project working on now
     ChrisWarrick    do you have a less offensive article?
     Andrew  I'm working on that
     ChrisWarrick    okay
     I hope this is clear enough on what I need ... well, how do I
     explain
     the GPL to them?
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References

   1. https://wiki.snowdrift.coop/about/licenses
   2. https://git.andrewyu.org/pygame-multiplayer/
   3. https://lukesmith.xyz/articles/why-i-use-the-gpl-and-not-cuck-licenses
   4. https://lists.libreplanet.org/mailman/listinfo/libreplanet-discuss
   5. https://lists.libreplanet.org/mailman/listinfo/libreplanet-discuss