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Re: [libreplanet-discuss] Is Stallman nuts?
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Joel Holder |
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Re: [libreplanet-discuss] Is Stallman nuts? |
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Wed, 18 Sep 2019 00:30:50 -0500 |
Congratulations, I’m officially unsubscribing from this list because of
this stupid thread that will not stop spamming my inbox with
emotionally torked posery.
As I depart, I leave you with these words. This is not twitter! There
used to be netiquette and collegiality observed here. We have a vision
and agenda to open minds and allow knowledge to flow where it will. We
are not here to hero worship nor plant non topical trigger bait.
Learn to separate people from their ideas...
The movement stands on its own.
On Tue, Sep 17, 2019 at 2:07 PM lily via liber planet-discuss
<[1]libreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org> wrote:
Earlier in this thread, I sent the message below (last
paragraph). I
want to state that I have not been following the current issue of
Stallman's statements closely, nor have I been following the
Epstein
case closely.
I am just a young woman who got involved in the Free Software
movement,
because I want to help people attain freedom. Over the past
decade I
have admired the work of Stallman and the FSF community. So much
good
has come out of these efforts. I personally, have been able to
reach a
freedom that I could only dream about as a little girl, because
of free
software.
I do not wish to see us fight over things that would hurt the
movement,
and I let my personal feelings get the best of me. I am the type
of
person that believes all social issues are connected and really
just
one issue. So the fighting, will only hurt us all.
Regardless of Stallman's resignation, I still see him at the
heart of
the movement, but I also believe that the rest of us bear the
responsibility of carrying forth the message of freedom in
technology
for protecting the freedoms of people. Furthermore, it is our
responsibility to see into the future and build a greater
foundation of
principles and software to address more social issues.
I hope the community can agree with me on the point that we need
greater compassion and positivity continuing forward. Below is
the
message I originally sent, for transparency of my actions.
Sincerely,
Lily
If it is true that Stallman called these victims as willing. I
entirely
agree with Marry-Anne. The Free Software movement already lacks
female
support and these comments will only push more women away. I as a
woman
who has also suffered harrassment as a child and as an adult, do
not
want a leader who says things that hurt women. Stallman, you
cannot do
this. We as members must be strong and have someone else
represent us
period. FSF should take a stand and provide support for women and
actively invite women to a space where we know we are supported,
believed in and respected.
-------- Original Message --------
On Sep 17, 2019, 11:03 AM, < [2]quiliro@riseup.net> wrote:
On Tue, September 17, 2019 12:04 pm, Ole Aamot wrote:
> Actually I feel sorry now if what I posted was
misinterpreted.
By me? No. I am sorry the message that campaigned against
Richard by
MARY
ANNE WOLF made such a bad impression of him on people that have
not
investigated the issue.
> Let's create a good and welcoming Libreplanet 2020 for
everyone.
d:-)
That would be nice. Lets!
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- Re: [libreplanet-discuss] Is Stallman nuts?, (continued)
- Re: [libreplanet-discuss] Is Stallman nuts?, Richard Stallman, 2019/09/21
- Re: [libreplanet-discuss] Is Stallman nuts?, lily, 2019/09/17
- Re: [libreplanet-discuss] Is Stallman nuts?, Thomas Lord, 2019/09/17
- Re: [libreplanet-discuss] Is Stallman nuts?, Aaron Wolf, 2019/09/17
- Re: [libreplanet-discuss] Is Stallman nuts?, Caleb Herbert, 2019/09/17
- Re: [libreplanet-discuss] Is Stallman nuts?, A. Mani, 2019/09/17
- Re: [libreplanet-discuss] Is Stallman nuts?, Richard Stallman, 2019/09/19
- Re: [libreplanet-discuss] Is Stallman nuts?, A. Mani, 2019/09/19
- Re: [libreplanet-discuss] Is Stallman nuts?, Adrienne G. Thompson, 2019/09/19
- Re: [libreplanet-discuss] Is Stallman nuts?, Richard Stallman, 2019/09/20
- Re: [libreplanet-discuss] Is Stallman nuts?,
Joel Holder <=
- Re: [libreplanet-discuss] Is Stallman nuts?, Adrienne G. Thompson, 2019/09/17
- Re: [libreplanet-discuss] Is Stallman nuts?, quiliro, 2019/09/17
- Re: [libreplanet-discuss] Is Stallman nuts?, Leah Rowe, 2019/09/17
- Re: [libreplanet-discuss] Is Stallman nuts?, Leah Rowe, 2019/09/17
- Re: [libreplanet-discuss] Is Stallman nuts?, Leah Rowe, 2019/09/17
- Re: [libreplanet-discuss] Is Stallman nuts?, Caleb Herbert, 2019/09/17
- Re: [libreplanet-discuss] Is Stallman nuts?, Leah Rowe, 2019/09/17
- Re: [libreplanet-discuss] Is Stallman nuts?, Adrienne G. Thompson, 2019/09/17
- Re: [libreplanet-discuss] Is Stallman nuts?, quiliro, 2019/09/18
- Re: [libreplanet-discuss] Is Stallman nuts?, Isaac David, 2019/09/18