Re: [Liberty-eiffel] My Gsoc suggestions

[Raphael Mack]

Hi Mehul,

thanks for the feedback. For the GSoC I think a tutorial is not a wanted
project as it doesn't bring much programming. It is not called
SummerOfDocumentation, but of course you are right it would be great to
have better tutorials.

What we have is http://wiki.liberty-eiffel.org/index.php/Main_Page with
the goal, that what is linked from the left box should be a kind of an
introductory book. Back in SmartEiffel times it was even planned to
print this as a real book on paper - what actually never happened ;-(

But you may have noticed, so far we have a small community and it is not
the most interesting thing to write a tutorial. But I commit myself to
do my best and if you are willing to give it a try to learn Eiffel using
the introduction in the wiki I will improve the documentation wherever
you ask real questions! So please, tell us where you have problems in
understanding what is written there, raise the questions that come up
here on the mailing list and come up with suggestions where we can make
live for a newcomer easier.

Regards,
Rapha


Am Montag, den 15.02.2016, 22:11 -0500 schrieb Mehul Sanghvi:
> 
> I am new to Eiffel.  I don't have any knowledge of it except for the
> fact that Eiffel introduced, or maybe
> formalised might be a better term, the concept of contracts between
> functions/methods.
> 
> 
> One things as someone who is absolutely new to Eiffel that I would
> like to see would be a tutorial on
> Eiffel.  Somethings to look at for potential inspiration would be the
> Java tutorials/trails (http://docs.oracle.com/javase/tutorial/).   Or
> maybe something along the lines of The Little Schemer series ?   Or
> even the On To ... series by Patrick Henry Winston.   Introduction to
> GNU Smalltalk would be another example, though
> that is more aimed at people who are new to programming.  I think Go
> has a good set of tutorials as well (https://tour.golang.org/)
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Just my thoughts, as a complete newbie to Eiffel.  
> 
> 
> 
> 
> cheers,
> 
> 
>        mehul
> 
> 
> 
> On Mon, Feb 15, 2016 at 2:36 AM, Raphael Mack <address@hidden>
> wrote:
>         Am Montag, den 15.02.2016, 07:38 +0100 schrieb Paolo Redaelli:
>         > I've put a couple of proposals for our Google summer of code
>         at
>         > http://wiki.liberty-eiffel.org/index.php/GSoC
>         
>         Great, thanks.
>         
>         > I think that we could try not to be under the umbrella of
>         GNU. In fact
>         > our ethic values are those of GNU yet our bonds
>         "organisative" bond
>         > with the rest of the GNU infrastructure are quite feeble. It
>         is also
>         > notable that I'm not sure we would be able to get in touch
>         in time
>         > with GNU's responsible for Gsoc
>         
>         I am on the GNU GSoC mailing list, but there is not much going
>         on so
>         far. We cannot push the GNU organisation application, so let's
>         go for
>         our own and have the umbrella as backup - in case they wake up
>         before
>         it's too late.
>         
>         > I was going to make at least other two proposals:
>         >
>         > * to add support for convert
>         
>         this is already included in ECMA extensions
>         
>         > * parallelize the compiler
>         let's keep this one for next year.
>         
>         > * add direct support for gccxml in the compiler
>         Not sure about the real use of this.
>         
>         > then I stopped as it felt quite too much
>         Yes, we already have a good set of ideas. Now we need to
>         manage the
>         application at google and find students. - I will try to push
>         it at ETH,
>         any other contacts to universities around? Maybe we need to
>         add another
>         idea, which needs less Eiffel knowledge, as I fear there are
>         not many
>         students knowing Eiffel...
>         
>         Cheers,
>         Rapha
>         
>         
>         
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Mehul N. Sanghvi
> email: address@hidden