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Re: [Hyperbole-users] Hyperscope, Hyperbole and Org Mode


From: Jean Louis
Subject: Re: [Hyperbole-users] Hyperscope, Hyperbole and Org Mode
Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2019 15:45:28 +0200
User-agent: Mutt/1.10.1 (2018-07-13)

* Robert Weiner <address@hidden> [2019-08-27 12:55]:
> Hi Jean:
> 
> Please show a simple example of the input and output of one link or
> one table from your Emacs-based Hyperscope system so we can
> inderstand what you mean.

> Other than a lack of unique ID generation and a table-based view, I
> cannot understand what you are saying Hyperbole does not include.
> Examples should clear it up.

I was using the tabulated-list-mode, and it took me not more than 1
hour to finish the foundation of browsing the data tree based
hyperlinking menu system, that I call Emacs HyperScope.

Here is video demonstration how to add description link:
https://open.tube/videos/watch/aebdcd5c-1a83-40eb-ab6d-0f1f71bb7919

Description link is type of a link. It just shows the
description. Similarly like README in directories. But HyperScope is
not directory based, it is database based. Though it can link to file
system of course.

Here is how it can link "greedy" (if this is the right word) to the
specific query in the PDF file. This largely depends of the PDF
readers, such as evince that allows such option:
https://open.tube/videos/watch/b7cae225-f1a5-4211-b0aa-db23d292e60e

Emacs HyperScope: linking from GNU Hyperbole file to HyperScope link
by its ID:
https://open.tube/videos/watch/f7ecc4b7-4422-4018-b775-c4cfdf2694bc

Emacs HyperScope: linking from GNU Hyperbole explicit button to
HyperScope specific action like PDF query:
https://open.tube/videos/watch/5140c959-28ce-4ff5-9035-4c4d4c51dd52

Now the problem to hyperlink to specific Maildir for Hyperbole is
solved on my side, I can just provide explicit button and run Emacs
Lisp to open such Maildir. Or anything else.

Then my links within Hyperbole buttons like similarly to below.

"sample-hyperbole.txt"
("Satzung,_FSFE,_Memberships" nil nil eval-elisp ((hyperscope-action 151)) "" 
"20190826:-34:54:35" nil nil)
("Hans-Peter_Dürr" nil nil eval-elisp ((hyperscope-action 119)) "" 
"20190826:-34:23:36" nil nil)
("Review_Communication" nil nil eval-elisp ((hyperscope-action 129)) "" 
"20190826:-34:21:12" nil nil)

I am just surprised that now is 2019, and so much time passed since
mother of all demos, and we still don't have possibilities in all
kinds of software to copy the reference or backlink, and to link
greedy to all kinds of information pieces.

Now I can make a Hyperbole File hyperlink type. If mime type is for
Org, it could be open as Org file, or any other type of file, text,
Markdown, whatever.

It allows me to jump by Hyperbole button to menu driven hyperlink set
of choices.

If I polish the system, maybe it could be included in Hyperbole, it
makes sense. But it is database based system, SQL, PostgreSQL, has
requirement for database.

Jean



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