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Re: Octave workshop for Octave 3.0.0 on windows Xp


From: Tatsuro MATSUOKA
Subject: Re: Octave workshop for Octave 3.0.0 on windows Xp
Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2008 14:21:28 +0900 (JST)

Hello

I think that this thead is to be closed here because it has been out of phase 
to the original posting.

If someone would like to continue discussion of text editors , please post 
sushc as 
'What is the most suitable editor for octave?'
:-)

Other option is to discuss how octave treats GUI.
This topic is near to the original posting and  worth to discuss further, I 
think.

Does somebody have a good subject name?

Regards

Tatsuro

--- Przemek Klosowski <address@hidden> wrote:

>    > Emacs is really not that difficult to learn to use.  I recommend that
>    > you try starting Emacs and typing Ctrl-h t to run the tutorial.
>    > Although it may require some effort to learn, I think you will be
>    > rewarded many times over in the long run.
> 
>    It seems to me that The-Best-Editor-in-the-World (TM) would only be able
>    to make me type faster (word-completion, auto-indenting, etc.). What I
>    need is a piece of software that makes me _think_ faster, because that's
>    the real bottleneck. I spend most of my time developing algorithms
>    (pen-and-paper work + trial-and-error stuff at the Octave prompt) -- the
>    actual implementations usually only takes a fraction of my time. So, I
>    never bothered learning Emacs, because I'm not that sure it's the right
>    part of routine to improve.
> 
> You are absolutely right about that: the best editor is one that feels
> completely out of the way, one that doesn't disrupt your thinking.
> 
> Emacs is a good editor, but the principal reason I stick with it is
> because I have it (or its equivalent) on all the platforms that I
> use---and I have a guarantee that it will work everywhere I'll need to
> be in the future.
> 
> My motion memory is wired for Emacs. I don't have to think how to type
> commands--my fingers know what to do.  I don't have to move my hands
> to the mouse, although I do it occasionally e.g. for large selections.
> It helps that I can configure my Gnome environment with Emacs keyboard
> shortcuts, so that basic Emacs commands work in all GTK widgets.(*)
> 
> My first editor was the Borland Turbo IDE and it was OK until I lost
> it because it was not available on VMS and Linux (yes I am an old fart).
> After that experience, I learned to love Emacs and stopped worrying.
> This reminds me of the old joke:
> 
>      "What's worse than a bad general?"
>      "Two good generals."
> 
> Executive summary: doesn't matter what you chose: just pick something
> that exists everywhere you need to be, and run with it.
> 
> This will be my only post about editor preferences.
> 
>      p
> 
> 
> 
> (*) The flip side of this argument is that GTK by default uses the
> standard 'Windows' set of keybindings shared by all Windows applications 
> (Ctrl-A selects all, Ctrl-C copies Ctrl-V pasts)---so why not stick
> with those? Well, that set is much less complete than Emacs, so ceter
> paribus I'd rather use Emacs'.
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