Re: Octave-Forge make failure under Red Hat 9

[Paul Thomas]

Julius Smith wrote:

> Ok, I'm sorry I suspected that the problems were not 
> platform-dependent and that the project couldn't build.  I agree that 
> my email contained incorrect speculation and that I should have given 
> the developers of the Communications Toolbox more benefit of the doubt.
>
> To explain why I overstepped, I had just lost a precious afternoon 
> debugging their package under Red Hat Linux, which I didn't realize 
> was a second-class platform at the time.  My life is such that half an 
> afternoon can be an entire WEEK of discretionary personal time.  Yes, 
> I was having a bad day.
>
> However, what I want to make sure all interested readers realize is 
> that I immediately followed up that email, before anyone else had a 
> chance to respond, reporting that I had determined that the problems 
> WERE platform-dependent.  Instead of accepting my restated second 
> email, the developer choose to react to the previous, obsolete email.  
> Now there is a whole thread on that.  I really don't think this is 
> fair.  A person should be able to "take something back", especially 
> when they get to it before anyone has a chance to respond.  Obviously 
> I am not the only one who feels the need to complain about something 
> that doesn't exist.

I confess not to being a "developer"; just somebody who, like you, is 
rushing to catch up with miniscule amounts of discretionary time.  I am 
just back from an overseas trip and did not see your later message.  As 
my neighbours say - desolé

Paul T

> jos
>
> At 09:06 AM 7/3/2004, Paul Thomas wrote:
>
> > Przemek Klosowski wrote:
> >
> > >   According to Julius Smith <address@hidden> (on 06/24/04):
> > >
> > >   > It is interesting that both of the current make failures in 
> > > octave-forge   > under Red Hat 9 were due to the Communications 
> > > Toolbox.  The maintainers of   > this toolbox apparently do not 
> > > bother to try compiling their project before   > submitting it to 
> > > octave-forge.  I find it hard to believe these are   > 
> > > platform-specific bugs.
> > >
> > > If the maintainters were indeed that delinquent, we'd have no choice
> > > but to send them to bed without supper.  I doubt, however, that it is
> > > the case here: you seem to assume that your locally installed 
> > > toolchain is working fine, but at the same time you have reported 
> > > mysterious and
> > > sometimes irreproducible compilation errors (in GCC and TeX).
> > >
> > > For the sake of the young readers here, please indulge this little
> > > pontification. I found it works well for me to err on the side of
> > > giving the benefit of the doubt to others when passing out the
> > > blame. Most of the time, even if it seems to me that I am right and
> > > others are wrong, I try to tone down what I am saying: many a time I
> > > managed not to come out as an idiot by forcing myself to hedge my
> > > statements. The difference between saying "maintainers [..] apparently
> > > do not bother to try" and "I wonder why it didn't work for me" might
> > > count if our assumptions turn out to be wrong.
> > >
> > > In this case, I'd run some hardware tests, and check and report the
> > > versions of programs in my toolchain.
> > >
> > >             p
> > I have to second this - my Octave-Forge build under RH9 worked so 
> > flawlessly that I thought that it had gone wrong.  I had to check 
> > that, all of a sudden, I had sparse matrices  before I was convinced 
> > that all was well.
> >
> > Paul T
> >
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