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Re: TR: [sciclub] Scilab news


From: pkienzle
Subject: Re: TR: [sciclub] Scilab news
Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2003 01:02:54 +0000

I'm working on it, but it is going a bit slowly.  I believe
that GiNaC runs on cygwin, so I don't see any problems
including the symbolic toolbox.  I'm following the
instructions in octave-forge/admin/Windows.

Paul Kienzle
address@hidden
> With this good news, I wounder if Andy Adler  would put together a new 
> version (with symbolic math in it?) .
> I know there are ways to do this myself (I would if i could), and there 
> are instructions for doing it from  octaves pages( I have done it this 
> way.), but I like Andy's version much better.
> 
> Doug Stewart
> PS  We have about 100 students using octave (3 different courses)..
> 
> 
> address@hidden wrote:
> 
> >I've removed the fork calls from the octave-2.1.50 distribution on
> >octave-forge (http://octave.sf.net).  I didn't like waiting ;-)
> >
> >I'm using it successfully on WindowsME, and I believe it works on
> >Windows98.  IIRC, the patches have been applied upstream, so
> >any Octave 2.1.50 or above should work fine.
> >
> >Paul Kienzle
> >address@hidden
> >  
> >
> >>The headaches are not Octave's fault. Cygwin doesn't work well on
> >>Windows9X/ME. I had problems with a lot of other programs that are based
> >>on it. There's a long standing issue with fork() that looks like will
> >>never be fixed.
> >>
> >>Given that all our computers are on Windows98 and ME we had no choice
> >>but to drop Octave for Windows. Next year we'll try to get the teachers
> >>and the students to use Linux, but it's going to be pretty hard. There
> >>has been some "active resistance" against Linux that forced us to choose
> >>SciLab, at least until the issues with these particular versions of
> >>windows are solved, or until we upgrade our software (that will be an
> >>extremely cold day in hell).
> >>
> >>On Sat, 2003-11-29 at 08:28, Doug Stewart wrote:
> >>    
> >>
> >>>What are the Headaches?  We should fix them.
> >>>Doug Stewart
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>Agustin Barto wrote:
> >>>
> >>>      
> >>>
> >>>>We had a great two year run working with Octave after the local
> >>>>authorities refused the funding for Matlab. Next year we'll be switching
> >>>>to SciLab (the main reason is that the Windows version of Octave is
> >>>>giving us a lot of headaches). This year we asked around and found out
> >>>>that not only the introductory courses on programming were based on
> >>>>Octave, but also numerical methods, some algebras and some advanced
> >>>>electronics courses too (All of these used Matlab in the past). This was
> >>>>much more than we expected.
> >>>>
> >>>>On Fri, 2003-11-28 at 18:40, Raymond E. Rogers wrote:
> >>>> 
> >>>>
> >>>>        
> >>>>
> >>>>>$800 !!!!!  At the insistence of my boss we just bought MatLab and a few 
> >>>>>packages for my work; for a grand total of about $8000.
> >>>>>I tried to explain to him other options, Octave, J, SciLab; but various 
> >>>>>others are using Matlab so he went ahead.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Ray
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Laurent Jacques wrote:
> >>>>>   
> >>>>>
> >>>>>          
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>On Friday 28 November 2003 21:36, John W. Eaton wrote:
> >>>>>>     
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>We run Octave but also Matlab in my lab (in a Belgian university) and 
> >>>>>>this 
> >>>>>>year we had to add just one user to our Matlab network licence. 
> >>>>>>Mathworks 
> >>>>>>refused to sell this separately but instead we had to buy a complete 
> >>>>>>new 
> >>>>>>Matlab distribution (the same that we had) with a special new license 
> >>>>>>file 
> >>>>>>allowing the new number of simultaneous users.
> >>>>>>All that costs around 800 $ ! 
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>But we have to be happy, for industrial use it is worst.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>Laurent.
> >>>>>>     
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>            
> >>>>>>
> 
> 
> 
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