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Re: TR: [sciclub] Scilab news


From: Agustin Barto
Subject: Re: TR: [sciclub] Scilab news
Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 19:44:05 -0300

The headaches are not Octave's fault. Cygwin doesn't work well on
Windows9X/ME. I had problems with a lot of other programs that are based
on it. There's a long standing issue with fork() that looks like will
never be fixed.

Given that all our computers are on Windows98 and ME we had no choice
but to drop Octave for Windows. Next year we'll try to get the teachers
and the students to use Linux, but it's going to be pretty hard. There
has been some "active resistance" against Linux that forced us to choose
SciLab, at least until the issues with these particular versions of
windows are solved, or until we upgrade our software (that will be an
extremely cold day in hell).

On Sat, 2003-11-29 at 08:28, Doug Stewart wrote:
> What are the Headaches?  We should fix them.
> Doug Stewart
> 
> 
> Agustin Barto wrote:
> 
> >We had a great two year run working with Octave after the local
> >authorities refused the funding for Matlab. Next year we'll be switching
> >to SciLab (the main reason is that the Windows version of Octave is
> >giving us a lot of headaches). This year we asked around and found out
> >that not only the introductory courses on programming were based on
> >Octave, but also numerical methods, some algebras and some advanced
> >electronics courses too (All of these used Matlab in the past). This was
> >much more than we expected.
> >
> >On Fri, 2003-11-28 at 18:40, Raymond E. Rogers wrote:
> >  
> >
> >>$800 !!!!!  At the insistence of my boss we just bought MatLab and a few 
> >>packages for my work; for a grand total of about $8000.
> >>I tried to explain to him other options, Octave, J, SciLab; but various 
> >>others are using Matlab so he went ahead.
> >>
> >>Ray
> >>
> >>Laurent Jacques wrote:
> >>    
> >>
> >>>On Friday 28 November 2003 21:36, John W. Eaton wrote:
> >>>      
> >>>
> >>>We run Octave but also Matlab in my lab (in a Belgian university) and this 
> >>>year we had to add just one user to our Matlab network licence. Mathworks 
> >>>refused to sell this separately but instead we had to buy a complete new 
> >>>Matlab distribution (the same that we had) with a special new license file 
> >>>allowing the new number of simultaneous users.
> >>>All that costs around 800 $ ! 
> >>>
> >>>But we have to be happy, for industrial use it is worst.
> >>>
> >>>Laurent.
> >>>      
> >>>
> >
> >
> >
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