RE: Choir problems

[Schweikert, Martin {POYD~Kaiseraugst}]

Mats,

you are a BRICK!

Thank you so much!

Best Regards / Mit freundlichem Gruss
Martin Schweikert
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mats Bengtsson [SMTP:address@hidden
> Sent: Friday, June 08, 2001 11:06 AM
> To:   Schweikert,    Martin {POYD~Kaiseraugst}
> Cc:   'address@hidden'
> Subject:      Re: Choir problems
> 
> > Hi!
> > 
> > Could somebody please point me to some files of choir musik I could learn 
> > from? Ideally, there should be a piece for soprano solo and soprano, alto, 
> > tenor, and bass - 1 staff for the solo voice, 1 staff for soprano & alto, 
> > and 1 staff for tenor & bass, each of these staffs would have their own 
> > lyrics.
> 
> There are a few score at Mutopia for choir, but I'm not sure if 
> they use the addlyrics feature.
> 
> > Or, alternatively, could somebody tell me what I'm doing wrong in the ly 
> > file attached to this mail.
> 
> I did a few changes and now it should work without problems, see
> the attachment.
> 
> > I started with the soprano solo (voice: SopranSoloStimme, lyrics: 
> > SopranSoloText). This was fine - automatic melismata and all such sorts of 
> > things.
> > 
> > Then I added the soprano (voice: SopranStimme, lyrics: FrauenText; in fact, 
> > the same lyrics are used for soprano and alto, so there is no need for 
> > separate lyrics for soprano and alto).
> > 
> > First problem: the automatic melismata do not work. Adding " \property 
> > Voice.automaticMelismata > ÿ#t" to the soprano and alto voices does not 
> > help - this leads to the weirdest error messages, one about an unfinished 
> > legato in bar 50.
> > 
> > OK, so I wrote the lyrics with explicit lengths. This worked, so far.
> 
> If you read the manual carefully, you'll notice that \addlyrics takes
> two sequences of music as arguments, copying the rythm of the first
> one to the second one. Thus, when you entered
>     \addlyrics
>       \context Staff=Frauen \notes \SopranStimme
>       \context Staff=Frauen \notes \AltStimme
>       \context Lyrics=Frauen \FrauenText
> it used the rhythm from SopranStimme on the AltStimme but didn't
> do anything to the FrauenText. I changed it such that the lyrics
> used the rhythm of the soprano part. You also have to set 
> automaticMelismata in every voice that's used as the first argument
> of \addlyrics. I actually set it in all voices of the full score
> with \property Score.automaticMelismata = ##t.
> 
> In the reference manual, section "Lyrics", subsection 
> "Automatic syllable durations" you can see how to instantiate
> contexts before calling \addlyrics if you for example want the
> lyrics on top of the staff. 
> 
> Some more comments:
> 
> - It's a good practice to insert bar checks (using "|") 
>   for every bar. It really helps tracking down typing errors. 
> 
> - You had used slurs not only for slurred notes but also for 
>   tied-over notes. I changed those to ties ("~"). You had a
>   couple of combinations of ties and slurs, which I then 
>   specified exactly as such, not as slurs and phrasing slurs.
>   I kept one phrasing slur, though, since the corresponding 
>   lyrics included several syllables. 
> 
> - Specify dynamics using \mf, \f and so on. If you want them 
>   above the staff, just say \dynamicUp (see ly/property.ly 
>   for more of these convenient shorthands for property settings).
>   
> - We should really add real support for Latin1 coded lyrics.
>   At the moment, you get all the characters in the printed 
>   output, but since Lilypond doesn't recognize characters 
>   like äöß, it can't calculate the length of each syllable
>   when it tries to adjust the note spacing to avoid collisions
>   between syllables. 
> 
> > Then I began adding the alto voice (AltStimme), and the catastrophe began: 
> > Look at bar 50: despite the 3/4 time, there is a half and two quarter notes 
> > in it!> 
> 
> Since you copied the rhythm from the soprano and didn't use
> automaticMelismata in the soprano part, see above.
> 
>     /Mats
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