[Date Prev][Date Next][Thread Prev][Thread Next][Date Index][Thread Index]
Re: Emacs Book Vs Emacs Manuals
From: |
Rusi |
Subject: |
Re: Emacs Book Vs Emacs Manuals |
Date: |
Tue, 12 May 2015 18:09:58 -0700 (PDT) |
User-agent: |
G2/1.0 |
On Tuesday, May 12, 2015 at 11:16:00 PM UTC+5:30, Eli Zaretskii wrote:
> > Date: Tue, 12 May 2015 09:55:47 -0700 (PDT)
> > From: Rusi
> >
> > > Each chapter in the Emacs manual is a short intro to the subject of
> > > that chapter.
> >
> > There is a fundamental difference between logical and pedagogical order.
>
> Indeed, it is. But I don't see the relevance of that to the issue at
> hand.
>
> > The emacs manual may be logically structured.
>
> No, it is intended to be pedagogically structured. If you find
> evidence to the contrary, i.e. style that is typical of academic
> papers, please report that as a bug.
>
> > Joe Noob has a need that is completely covered in chaps i,(more likely
> > i,j,k)
> > of the manual. How does he go from his need to chaps i,j,k?
>
> Via cross-references and menus, of course. And via index search.
>
> > Lets say that dired and even better wdired is exactly what he needs. How is
> > he
> > going to find that out?
>
> I would start by typing "i directory TAB", then see "directory
> listing" there, and select it. And there, lo and behold, I'd see
> this:
>
> The file system groups files into "directories". A "directory listing"
> is a list of all the files in a directory. Emacs provides commands to
> create and delete directories, and to make directory listings in brief
> format (file names only) and verbose format (sizes, dates, and authors
> included). Emacs also includes a directory browser feature called
> Dired; see *note Dired::. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> ^^^^^
>
> Then I'd follow that Dired hyperlink, and in the menu, due to some
> sheer luck (or maybe something else) I'd see this, inter alia:
>
> * Wdired:: Operating on files by editing the Dired
> buffer.
>
> and also
>
> * Image-Dired:: Viewing image thumbnails in Dired.
>
> and lots of other interesting and relevant topics.
I just picked the dired/wdired eg at random
And now I look (emacs 24.3.1)
Where-is: wdired-change-to-wdired-mode <Menubar> <Immediate> <Wdired-mode>
But I dont see any Wdired in menu → immediate
- Re: Emacs Book Vs Emacs Manuals, (continued)
- Re: Emacs Book Vs Emacs Manuals, Eli Zaretskii, 2015/05/13
- Message not available
- Re: Emacs Book Vs Emacs Manuals, Rusi, 2015/05/14
- Re: Emacs Book Vs Emacs Manuals, Eli Zaretskii, 2015/05/15
- Message not available
- Re: Emacs Book Vs Emacs Manuals, Rusi, 2015/05/15
- Re: Emacs Book Vs Emacs Manuals, Eli Zaretskii, 2015/05/15
- Re: Emacs Book Vs Emacs Manuals, Phillip Lord, 2015/05/15
- Message not available
- Re: Emacs Book Vs Emacs Manuals, Rusi, 2015/05/15
- Re: Emacs Book Vs Emacs Manuals, Eli Zaretskii, 2015/05/15
- Message not available
- Re: Emacs Book Vs Emacs Manuals,
Rusi <=
- RE: Emacs Book Vs Emacs Manuals, Drew Adams, 2015/05/12
- Message not available
- Re: Emacs Book Vs Emacs Manuals, Rusi, 2015/05/11
- Re: Emacs Book Vs Emacs Manuals, Robert Thorpe, 2015/05/19
- Re: Emacs Book Vs Emacs Manuals, Sivaram Neelakantan, 2015/05/08
- Re: Emacs Book Vs Emacs Manuals, Vaidheeswaran C, 2015/05/09
Message not available
RE: Emacs Book Vs Emacs Manuals, Drew Adams, 2015/05/08
Re: Emacs Book Vs Emacs Manuals, Marcin Borkowski, 2015/05/08