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[Help-gnu-arch] The issue is not that they're pointing to non-existent p


From: Williamson K. Charles
Subject: [Help-gnu-arch] The issue is not that they're pointing to non-existent problems: the issue that their diction and phrasing indicates a disdain, real or perceived, for their targets.
Date: Sat, 25 Nov 2006 14:18:16 +0800

" I wanted to make sure to call this out because I know many "closed
source" people have a negative view of using GPL regardless of whether
those perception are warranted. The more important effect of Java, and
esp.
The more important effect of Java, and esp.

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Each are in "small" ways.
I see the two more as getting along in the long term, at least ruby.
Typically, one of the more difficult things for those folks to "get" is
that open source means more than just code.
The honest answer is that Sun makes money more indirectly from Java than
directly.
I'll have to test out the microphone soon too.
From the conversations I've been in, the attitude is usually, "show me
the code" rather than extending good faith that Sun will do it "one day.
But, again, they're big companies, so any change takes time: you have to
keep your eyes peeled for this little things.
More importantly to my biases, actually, is that I'm a Java developer.
Find out how EGL has evolved from a long history of proven IBM products.
" That's fair in the meritocracy open source world: talk is cheap,
commits are what matter.
The issue is not that they're pointing to non-existent problems: the
issue that their diction and phrasing indicates a disdain, real or
perceived, for their targets.
Most mature, closed source company suffer this same malady.
That's the nature of open source: you can only try to direct things in
your direction, it's the greater community that actually makes it
happen.
But, I submit the theory that it'll be incredibly difficult, if
impossible for any vendor to establish a long-lived developer ecosystem
based on non-open technology.
While that may seem like chaos at first, the open source world has
figured out how to deploy, or make production ready, all that innovation
in a stable way on a still relativly fast timeline. The more important
effect of Java, and esp. Or, just leave comments below or on your own
blog. Widening to industry trends, I've begun to get the gut-feel that
the population of Opensville is going to grow rapidly in the next year
or so.
The more important effect of Java, and esp. Widening to industry trends,
I've begun to get the gut-feel that the population of Opensville is
going to grow rapidly in the next year or so. And if the full-time part
is correct, it means Adobe is "spending" their valuable developer time
on open source.
That point is certainly true and I still find myself concerned that
there doesn't seem to be a strong, known presence in evolving the web
via standards and technologies. " That's a good question.
More importantly, I'm not really sure it could be any other way. This
"small" thing could turn into a larger, more positive force if Adobe
gets involved with more of the open source world.
That said, most of the focus here and elsewhere will be on SE as that's
usually what people mean when they say "Java.
To twist the Zen koen, if a company open sources a code base and no one
commits code, have they really open sourced? This "small" thing could
turn into a larger, more positive force if Adobe gets involved with more
of the open source world.
" Big companies, indeed. To twist the Zen koen, if a company open
sources a code base and no one commits code, have they really open
sourced?
In fact, if I recall correctly, the folks working on it would be
full-time dedicated to it. Holy crap the audio quality is good. on
virtualization and SOA, and maybe some other things in the future.
More importantly to my biases, actually, is that I'm a Java developer.
To twist the Zen koen, if a company open sources a code base and no one
commits code, have they really open sourced?
And, sure,  as the many Friends of RedMonk at those and companies are
quick to interject when we point this out incident-by-incident, "hey,
we're evolving as fast as possible!
Find out how EGL has evolved from a long history of proven IBM products.
open sourcing Java, is maintaining and growing an environment that's
favorable for Sun to market and sell into. At the moment, Java can't be
depended on to exist on any old Linux. That point is certainly true and
I still find myself concerned that there doesn't seem to be a strong,
known presence in evolving the web via standards and technologies.





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