RE: [h-e-w] ange-ftp broken in 21.1?

[Randy Kerber]

Greetings,

I had a bunch of trouble getting ange-ftp working with one of my ISPs
(emacs 21.1.1, win2000 sp2).  To get it to work, I had to use the
function call (ange-ftp-add-dumb-unix-host "users.isp1.net").  This
appears to force the use of "dir" for directory listings rather than
"ls".  

The command "ls" with no arguments would not list directories, only
files; "ls /" was attempting to list the root directory of the machine
rather than the root of my home ftp directory; "ls -l", on the other
hand, worked correctly; "dir /" would correctly list contents of home
directory.  There were several other inconsistent behaviors.  When I
called tech support at the ISP they initially said that it sounds like I
found some problems, then later they came back with "we talked to the
engineers some more and they discovered that that's the way it's
supposed to be".  I'm sure that's a load of B.S., but it was my word
against theirs.

Is there an accepted FTP standard as to what commands like "ls /" and
"ls" are supposed to return?  I'd like to be able to refer to a website
that backs me up when I call tech support again.

Here's what I needed in my .emacs to get ftp to work:

;;-----------------------------------------------------------
(custom-set-variables
 '(ange-ftp-ftp-program-name "c:/winnt/system32/ftp.exe")
 < many other non-ftp customizations... >
 )

(ange-ftp-set-passwd "users.isp1.net" "me" "myFTPpassword")
(ange-ftp-set-passwd "userftp.isp2.net" "me" "otherPassword")

(ange-ftp-add-dumb-unix-host "users.isp1.net")
;;-----------------------------------------------------------

___________________
Randy Kerber
 
Data Mining Consultant 
 -- software development & data analysis
 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: address@hidden 
> [mailto:address@hidden On Behalf Of Dr 
> Francis J. Wright
> Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2002 7:28 AM
> To: Stephen Bardsley
> Cc: address@hidden
> Subject: Re: [h-e-w] ange-ftp broken in 21.1?
> 
> I would suggest trying removing or ignoring all ange-ftp 
> specific customization and ensuring that the standard 
> Microsoft ftp program is the one being used.  That 
> arrangement seems to work well for me, although I'm running 
> Win NT not 2K.  Actually, there might be a small bug in 21.1 
> that is fixed in the pretest that I am running, but the bug I 
> was aware of previously (and I can't remember exactly when) 
> was not insuperable.
> 
> Francis
> 
> 
> Stephen Bardsley wrote:
> > 
> > Greetings:
> > 
> > I recently upgraded from emacs 20.7 to 21.1.
> > 
> > I am a big fan of ange-ftp, and have come to depend on it, 
> but it does 
> > not seem to work for me in 21.1.  It's fine in 20.7.  I am running 
> > Windows2000.
> > 
> > I get the following message in the emacs minibuffer:
> > 
> >   apply: Spawning child process: invalid argument
> > 
> > Any suggestions are appreciated.